What Zoxsasi is getting at, is exactly what I described above. We all have a polemics problem. For some it amounts to utter and complete hatred of an opposing church. For others it amounts to perpetuated statements (true and false) with little suppo…
Mina, I'm waiting in anticipation for more responses.
Let me respond to your comment by stating that I should have first setup a working definition of asceticism. I simply assumed we would both be using the same definition of asceticism (particular…
Stavro, you bring up some excellent points.
First I would like to say that the Chalcedonians are just as inconsistent in their position of the Orientals as we are to them. I have seen many, many EO who are split on the proper way to deal with Orien…
4. "Passive submissivist" or "passive submission" is a false description. Submission, real submission that is not violently enforced, is an active decision. A husband who submits to his wife, is actively exercising his faith, as is a wife who activ…
Very interesting Mina. A few points raise more questions.
1. You wrote: Well, because we laymen have lost the importance of asceticism in our lives. Monasticism developed strongly because there was an abundance of "fake Christians". And asceticism…
Ophadece,
You need to use Unicode fonts, not legacy Coptic fonts. Unicode fonts specifically designate characters to specific languages. Legacy Coptic fonts, look Coptic, but they are designated English characters. So English fonts that do not have …
I don't think it is fair to say synodal decisions are becoming more and more unilateral because of general bishops. This type of judgement has no substance. Pope Tawadros is going out of his way to reorganize the Synod and create dioceses with more …
qawe wrote: the diocesan bishop prohibition may not be explicit enough that you can't find a sophistic argument against it, but it is clear that has been the implicit consensus of the church, grounded in the various synodal and conciliar declaration…
Mina,
I see you're passionate about this. However, you used the noun "it" so many times, I wasn't sure if you agree or disagree with my assessment and what exactly "it" is. I think we are agreeing on most points except diocesan bishop elevation to t…
Yes you're correct. I conflated adribi with shami tune. My apologies.
While adrabe/adrahwa may be a corrupted form of adribi, it is a little too far fetched to accept adribi is a form of eterhibe/adrahba/adrahwa. It is more plausible to be related…
Sorry this is late. The Coptic word is not et-hibi. It is ⲉⲧⲉⲣϩⲏⲃⲓ eterheebi (Bohairc) and ⲉⲧⲣ̅ϩⲏⲃⲉ etrheebe (Sahidic), both mean "that which is grieving" as an adjective. The noun is simply ϩⲏⲃⲓ (Bohairic) and ϩⲏⲃⲉ (Sahidic). Matthew 5:4 says ⲛⲏⲉⲧⲉ…
What you see as a pro, I see as a con. Diocesan bishops are not explicitly excluded from any canon on the election of the patriarch, nor does a diocesean bishop abandon or move to another city by becoming patriarch. We can argue this till we're blue…
The Thomas hymn is grammatical wrong according to modern Coptic grammar. However, this is how the hymn was passed down. I have a manuscript that has the hymn, as well as many other rare hymns. Most of them are also "wrong" grammatically. This tells …
As far as I can tell, the earliest manuscript evidence for the Judas hymn or Judas procession is late 19th/early 20th century. There might be something earlier than the 19th century, but no earlier than 14th century.
Regarding your original post, I…
Speaking of the service too long; We used to say the 11th hour of thursday right immediately after the liturgy (we would take 2 hours) then immediately begin the night service. So we would start Thursday at 6 am and not leave till 10pm. That didn't …
Stavro wrote:But I think the issue I am trying to get at is the inconsistency in the position of the Coptic Church regarding Chalcedon. All of us can agree, and I will concede, that the non-Chalcedonians NOW do not see anything heretical with Chalce…
I don't know much about politics but I think there is more than one controversy here discussed and possibly conflated. Protestant singers and songs should never be allowed in any Orthodox church service. Ever. Period. Our Coptic Church is not bankru…
Ioannes, I'm starting to think you're my long lost twin.
At New Years, I was reading Chalcedon and Christology with all the works of St Cyril while the New Year party was going on. I was so engulfed in theology. When I came upstairs at midnight and…
Ioannes, can you elaborate? How does Pope Kyrillos VI address the issues of protestantizing?
CopticStrength, if something is officially accepted, it can't be changed with official approval. I understand you offered what you thought was the translat…
"Now by saying his humanity died but his divinity did not is that separating natures?"
YES, if you do not qualify it with specific terminology. And Tobit hit the nail on the head. We find all the answers in St Cyril's Third letter to Nestorius (The…
elepti,We all know this. We are commanded by God to expose the lies and not just sit back. Doing so doesn't make us whining little children who don't understand how the world works. Your comment for us to grow up is unwarranted and offensively wrong…
Aschauer,
Please keep us informed of your journey regardless of where you find your home. Stories like blessedtobeawitness' have more effect on us cradle Coptic than what people might think.
Aschauer,I am not a convert but I can give you some information that may help. Depending on which Coptic Church you go to, you will find a mix of Coptic, Arabic and English. Many churches have all English liturgies (with about 10% Coptic) scheduled …
It's more than that. It's not just justification for his desires. Gabe wants justification to attack Coptic Christianity for not accepting homosexuality (giving examples of profanity from Copts) while at the same time seeking a Coptic Christianity t…
Depends what you mean by "solid historical truth". All history is written by men with particular views and biases. If "solid historical truth" means it is corroborated by documented evidence, then many of our saints stories would be considered apocr…
One small correction Ioannes. Every pope from the 3rd century was "ratified" by the ruling party, whether it was the Roman emperor, the Sultan in the Arabian peninsula, the Ottoman caliph or modern Egyptian government. They were not chosen by the so…
Technically speaking, scanning books you bought and placing them online is not piracy according to current US copyright laws upheld by the Supreme Court. Piracy is when you don't buy a book, steal it, scan it and place it online.
As long as you do …
God must be listening in on our discussions. The Holy Synod amended the 1957 laws just last week as you can see on this site.
They did not change the requirement for Egyptian birth. I don't think it has anything to do with global politics or imperia…