[quote author=sodr2 link=topic=12696.msg149163#msg149163 date=1324137514]
If one comes to mass after the reading of the Gospel, they're not allowed to take communion, right? What if someone comes during the reading? Also, if someone hasn't taken com…
[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=12694.msg149132#msg149132 date=1324014642]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12694.msg149131#msg149131 date=1324014336]
St Catherine is not a saint at. It is a legend.
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I have been told that many o…
Discipleship is the corner of spirituality.
I believe that the most important thing we lack these days, especially in the Coptic Church, is discipleship. Whether or not there is a seminary education, if there is no discipleship then there is no tr…
It is, however, interesting that Pope Demetrius condemned Origen for transferring jurisdictions and coming under the bishops of Antioch and Jerusalem. So even before the Canon 15, it must have been relevant back then too.
Good point Remenkimi.
Can…
[quote author=Biboboy link=topic=12653.msg149058#msg149058 date=1323895577]
It may be a whole lot easier for everyone if you simplify the conversation with an analogy.
A bishop is given the care of a diocese. When ordained to serve the diocese, it…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12653.msg149052#msg149052 date=1323893370]
I don't think that you are appreciating the spirit of the canons, unless you also think it is problematic that an exceptional circumstance, the transfer of a bishop, ha…
Allow me to ignore your future posts on these topics, because it seems to me that your perpetual state of Matania forces you to act in a certain way that compromises reason, logic and comprehension, and this state is agitated by the mention of anyth…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12653.msg149043#msg149043 date=1323890890]
imikhail, Stavro's posts are entirely consistent with Orthodox tradition. It is entirely the case that normally no bishop should be moved to another see, and usually wh…
Give your audience some credit. The Pope of Alexandria is most surely ordained and there is laying of hands as the central part of the ordaining liturgy. The most recent ordination of a Pope, is Pope Kyrillos.
The Pope is a bishop, and surely you…
The holy and great synod refers to the council of Nicea. It is not your local church council or your assembly of believers in any place. It refer to the holy and great council of Nicea, and to make sure nobody in 2011 misunderstands the intention o…
Without taking you step by step through the identical circumstances and obvious similarities, it is enough to say that all these cases, ancient and recent, represent violations of the Canon # 15, Nicea, and the Apostolic Canon mentioned above. What …
If any bishop, presbyter, or deacon, shall receive from anyone a second ordination, let both the ordained and the ordainer be deposed
The Pope of Alexandria is not ordained ....
If you are referring to the text of the canon, I am not sure which part of it you think strengthens your position.
And if any one, after this decree of the holy and .....
The keyword here is anyone, not the Church consensus for such a move.
[quote author=Christ4000 link=topic=12686.msg149002#msg149002 date=1323809071]
Hi All,
Does anyone know why the Nativity Doxology is chanted at the tune of the Gospel Response & is not similar to the other Joyful Doxologies? I need to explain t…
Thanks for the contribution, but I believe it is a private interpretation that is not supported by the text or the spirit of the canon as you posted it.
No. I am afraid that this is not just my view. You can find the same interpretation here:
http…
Here is canon 15:
"On account of the great disturbance and discords that occur, it is decreed that the custom prevailing in certain places contrary to the Canon, must wholly be done away; so that neither bishop, presbyter, nor deacon shall pass fro…
Regarding the history, there are a few theories. I believe the author is not Sarkis because of the occurance of Sahidic Coptic. I also believe that Bishop Raphael Tuki of the Coptic Catholic church first attempted to "correct" the text in the 18th c…
I know that this is not the topic but tit does deal with Kiahk.
Have you gus listned to the Heritage Cds? There is a clip called "Friday Theotokeya 2". When I researched the lyrics, I found out that it is a Madee7a that is placed between the Theoto…
[quote author=TITL link=topic=12650.msg148763#msg148763 date=1323360522]
I asked a bishop, and he said "everything should be consecrated (including censor, the throne, incense box, altar cloths, water vessels, the cross, and al behsara), but not all…
[quote author=christ_rose link=topic=12660.msg148757#msg148757 date=1323353724]
well yes, but it was always pi lampas. Im assuming because St Mary is a woman and her symbolisms are masculine they changed the prepositions to feminine but im not sure.…
[quote author=christ_rose link=topic=12660.msg148681#msg148681 date=1323293991]
Recently, i have been listening to some recordings for the sherat, and in these recordings i have been hearing Ti lampas used instead of pi lampas. Obviously they are no…
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=12650.msg148707#msg148707 date=1323303039]
The Book of Ordinations and Consecrations does not have Psalter in it at all (the same printing that I mentioned earlier). When the Psalter was introduced 1/3 into t…
[quote author=TITL link=topic=12659.msg148682#msg148682 date=1323294029]
imikhail,
Does 'Isoos Pi`ekhristos Epsheery Emefnouty aficheesarex khen tee-parthenous' make any sense? Cause in Arabic we say "Yasou alMaseeh ibn-Allah wooleedah men el3azra…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12659.msg148679#msg148679 date=1323293573]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12659.msg148677#msg148677 date=1323293052]
We can translate Pimici ebol qen `Viwt af[carx ebol qen ]par;enoc
Who is born of the Father …
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=12650.msg148675#msg148675 date=1323292927]
Unfortunately I live in three zip codes depending on the day of the week and I cannot put the book into my hand right now.
The book is the cranberry red with brown l…