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When you say corruption, you seem to be implying our nature in it of itself is sinful--this is not true, nor is it orthodox. Our nature was corrupted with sin. We inherited the corruption. Christ took the human nature without the corruption. To s…
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Any Church stops being a hospital if God's Word is not being assimilated and absorbed in people's hearts. I am glad you brought this point up. The heart has to be ready to absorb.
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I have to disagree. Praying in a Dead language doesnt increase interest in the Church, the Churches beliefs and practises do. The youth being bored of the church isnt to do with the language, but rather the Nature of Orthodox Church. I mean why wou…
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Food for thought: Did any of the saints you listed above attend a church in which they could not understand the hymns? You attribute their sainthood to the hymns? Basically what you are saying is that our path to the kingdom is hinged on the hy…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151929#msg151929 date=1329278881] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg151927#msg151927 date=1329278661] Andrew, You started this thread with: "People wonder why the youth know little about the churc…
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Andrew, You started this thread with: "People wonder why the youth know little about the church...it's because many of her teachings can be found in the hymns, but they can't understand them!!" Do you really believe that the issue here is the Co…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151920#msg151920 date=1329276881] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg151918#msg151918 date=1329276245] [quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151907#msg151907 date=1329257335] [quote author=imikhail…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151907#msg151907 date=1329257335] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg151875#msg151875 date=1329227643] I have read quickly through the posts on this thread .. I have noticed a common theme with discus…
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mikhail--you seem to imply that "corruption" is inherited because of sin. However, you should be careful when using this word, because it not only implies defect but perversion within our nature (which is most likely why the fathers reject the use o…
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Thanks TTL. I am glad that the quotes you posted agree with the liturgical prayers of the Church.
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12907.msg151898#msg151898 date=1329245240] Well I dont want to argue with you so ill leave it there [/quote] Please, continue the discussion, if not for me, at least for the benefit of others. What the Churc…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12907.msg151895#msg151895 date=1329243909] But have you studied any of the Fathers on this subject?[/quote] Our liturgical prayers breathe the teaching of the Fathers. So in a way yes, though I have not focused…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12907.msg151893#msg151893 date=1329243055] Our nature is not corrupt when we are born. [/quote] I cannot accept this sentence whatsoever. I am afraid this is not the teaching of our Church. All our liturgica…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12907.msg151888#msg151888 date=1329241507] The Fathers are explicit that out nature is not sinful. We are born mortal not sinful. This is the teaching of the Fathers. [/quote] I understand what you are trying …
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12907.msg151889#msg151889 date=1329241628] If Christ felt pain and suffering, why would His mother be exempt from labor pain? She herself acknowledges her need for a savior. If she gave birth without pain, then one …
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12907.msg151880#msg151880 date=1329231639] Christ took our own nature, under the curse, and felt both pain and suffering. [/quote] He took the human nature, not our sinful one.
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The Church is like a hospital where one goes to get treated for illnesses. Its where one's heart is constantly purified and cleansed from hearing and absorbing the word of God; through assimilating and digesting His Word. Are you saying that your l…
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=12907.msg151796#msg151796 date=1329101735] "For He who was born is God,born without pain from the Father,and He was also born according to the flesh,without pain for the Virgin." Ok so this say that there was …
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Secondly, when I said OB is different than Sahidic, I was referring to letters like p, which in Sahidic is /p/ and never /b/ like OB. Sahidic t is always /t/ and not /d/. While Sahidic does pronounce b as /w/ (like Beca as /wesa/), it is not univers…
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I'd be interested
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I have read quickly through the posts on this thread .. I have noticed a common theme with discussions like this. The bottom line is that people like to to blame something for their failures .. it is human nature and it did start with our father Ada…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12883.msg151607#msg151607 date=1328735966] Its available on my Lulu store as an e-book. http://www.lulu.com/product/ebook/orthodox-christology/17565035?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_166367_ other boo…
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They seem to interpret nature in ephasis as equivalent to Hypostasis. They say that St. Cyril spoke at times in terms of two ousiai in one hypostasis. The two ousiai comprise the divine will and the human will united in the one hypostasis or pers…
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=12878.msg151531#msg151531 date=1328562590] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12878.msg151516#msg151516 date=1328552181] No abstinence of food on those days which should accompany all the fastings. [/quote] T…
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[quote author=metouro link=topic=12883.msg151528#msg151528 date=1328559576] Chalcedonians maintain that the fact that Christ is in two minds or intellects is not Nestorian and here is why: The Mind is not the person, but a power of the nature, whic…
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[quote author=George_Mina_Awad link=topic=12883.msg151521#msg151521 date=1328556081] imikhail, so how would you explain Christ's prayer in Matthew 26:39?: "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but a…
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The answer to your question is NO. St. Cyril speaks of on will after the Incarnation and that of the God incarnate. The reason we reject the Council of Chalcedon is because of this separation. It is very dangerous to speak of the two wills beca…
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No abstinence of food on those days which should accompany all the fastings.
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[quote author=qawe link=topic=12861.msg151390#msg151390 date=1328182658] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12861.msg151357#msg151357 date=1328130465] really?! you are using that against him......this verse was towards faith into God and not a langua…
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really?! you are using that against him......this verse was towards faith into God and not a language that means NOTHING to God. Lukewarmness in anything is unacceptable. Faith should drive all of your life for through it we live, think and move.