imikhail
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Believe it or not, I don't care for one dialect over the other. I have a suggestion for you Reminkimi, you need to care. God hates lukewarmness . I am only vocal about GB because proponents of OB on this forum continue to justify their animosity …
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The word "kai" in Greek is spelled in Coptic the exact same way as in Greek but pronounced differently "kay". However modern books started dropping the i and that is why it is nowadays pronounced "ke.
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12861.msg151323#msg151323 date=1328063458] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12861.msg151318#msg151318 date=1328053834] the second reason is because 99.99% of the Copts do not care. [/quote] and what makes you t…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12861.msg151317#msg151317 date=1328052331] [quote author=JG link=topic=12861.msg151314#msg151314 date=1328050987] I think it might be worth getting a subforum dedicated purely to "GB vs. OB" discussions for imikh…
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How do the Copts pronounce Greek? Would they pronounce it as if they were speaking Greek? This question hopefully make you think about the argument that any Greek hymn or Greek words must be pronounced like Greek.
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[quote author=qawe link=topic=12797.msg151128#msg151128 date=1327662112] [quote author=Andrew link=topic=12797.msg151123#msg151123 date=1327645761] To close the discussion on "Protestant Concerts" everyone OUGHT to read this article: Using Instrumen…
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[quote author=qawe link=topic=12843.msg151129#msg151129 date=1327662581] What is the Church's position on the Assyrian Church of the East in contrast to the Eastern Orthodox Church? I know we are not in communion, but that's all I know. Interested t…
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It would be a grave danger to suggest that the spiritual life and the liturgical life are different and separate and especially that we should choose the liturgical over the spiritual. Indeed it is incomprehensible to say such a thing. I did not…
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I believe whole heartedly it is education. Most Copts do not appreciate the liturgical life. They do think that the liturgy and praying are two different things. Liturgy became a ritualistic event that is unimportant so long as there are prayer mee…
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The answer is simple Education. My people perished for lack of knowledge.
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12781.msg150967#msg150967 date=1327343460] Did Fr Shenouda or anyone else in Rochester, NY tell you that Fr Shenouda is temporarily unavailable? No. I am telling you that Pope Shenouda's decision, after sending mult…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12781.msg150964#msg150964 date=1327340328] Different priests from the NY/NJ/Canada area are sent to pray on Sundays at St Mark Rochester. [/quote] This only happens when Fr. Shenouda is on the road. He is the pries…
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[quote author=LoveisDivine link=topic=12797.msg150956#msg150956 date=1327296697] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12797.msg150955#msg150955 date=1327292986] As a professional translator of Coptic and a teacher of it in our seminaries we asked him i…
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As a professional translator of Coptic and a teacher of it in our seminaries we asked him if he understood the liturgy and he said he couldn't. I find it amazing that such a scholar cannot understand the liturgy while I can. BTW I know this sch…
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[quote author=Coptic123 link=topic=10771.msg150949#msg150949 date=1327286972] "So I am disputing your facts by saying that there was a source older than Mo3allem Mikhail and recorded the hymns in OB from which Abouna Shenouda received. If you are sa…
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I am a student of theology and I spend time dwelling over the meaning of words and so on and no matter how much I learn I have concluded that there is no replacement for doing full Tasbeha in English, Coptic at best will only ever be a poor substi…
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[quote author=avvakaras link=topic=12797.msg150940#msg150940 date=1327282367] U want context?? Stephen telling the high priests about being stiff necked... cuz the werent accepting jesus... cuz they were too busy being strict with their own religion…
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I do not believe that Fr. Shenouda has ever claimed that he learned the OB hymns from an old recording that pre-dates Mlm. Mikhail. Fr. Shenouda never claimed that that he learned the OB from an old recording that pre dates Mlm. Mikhail. Who said …
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[quote author=Coptic123 link=topic=12781.msg150928#msg150928 date=1327270883] Both churches now have Liturgies every Sunday and Fr. Shenouda now shepherds Sts. Peter and Paul Church. [/quote] Who prays at St Mark?
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Are you saying that there are another priest serving St.Mark? He is still the sole priest in Rochester and his main church is St. Mark. St. Paul was a Catholic cathedral that he purchased few years ago.
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Fr. Shenouda serves both churches. The main church is St. Mark.
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Eternal Life. The Son took the body of man and glorified it through His life-giving death, so will man be glorified through his participation in the Son's death. Transfiguration was the transfiguration of man from being earthly to being eternal, f…
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I do agree with Stavro to an extent. Do we really know what details the Pope knew of this Muquattam worship?
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the Godpel writers seem to disagree in this The Gospel writers would never disagree on anything. If it seems that way then is due to our own lack of understanding. The Spirit was one that worked through the writers, the message is one which they…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12807.msg150802#msg150802 date=1326984173] The Canons of the Councils of Neo-Caesarea and Laodicea are universally accepted, and are accepted by the Orthodox Church of Alexandria. Canon XI of Neo-Caesarea says…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12807.msg150800#msg150800 date=1326978474] We are surely governed by the universal canons of the Church. It seems to me to have been proved to be unhealthy when almost every males is allowed to wear the tonia an…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12807.msg150798#msg150798 date=1326977222] I dont think is correct. And it is certainly not universal. The canons state that only a Deacon may where it, and by dispensation it has been allowed to the subdeacon b…
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A reader, in the Coptic rite, does wear the Batrashail in the form of a cross on the back.
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12781.msg150771#msg150771 date=1326937941] This is ridiculous. The messages on this forum that describe OB rules predominately were written by you, especially in the "Shenouti or Shenouda" thread. In post #78, you…
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There have been many threads here about what OB is. One main inconsistency I find is the interchange between the letters "a" and "e" and "t" and "ti". According to what many here call OB, and I will call it theoretical OB for the moment, "e" is alw…