Pope Demitrius was a leader in fixing the Pascha and the Church of Alexandria was the one to determine when it is to be celebrated.
This is the Tradition and this is what we have received.
Abanshoyce along with the verses of the Lent should come right after the annual introduction.
The same is true for any occasion. For example, during the Lord's feasts, we say the introduction (Danwosht) then we say the verses for the occasion.
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12980.msg153045#msg153045 date=1331720321]
Abstinence is a necessity from midnight even if communion is at 6 pm meaning an abstinenc…
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Abstinence is a necessity from midnight even if communion is at 6 pm meaning an abstinence of 16 ho…
Abstinence is a necessity from midnight even if communion is at 6 pm meaning an abstinence of 16 hours.
This is the general rule. Talk with your FOC for guidance.
After the fall man lost the grace of being with God and was condemned to eternal death. That is why God became man to restore him back to eternal life.
Jesus was not given a new soul when He came on earth
Human nature is soul, spirit and body.
The divinity was united to the human nature and thus the Son had a human soul and is still united with it.
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What is Anba Mettaous' Rites book called?
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Dallal al sana al tooteya
[quote author=coptic pharaoh link=topic=12948.msg152367#msg152367 date=1329936782]
But there are multiple priest praying it, not just one... Like where does stuff like this come from? they're not gonna just make it up... it's gotta be written somewh…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12937.msg152314#msg152314 date=1329841361]
By allowing the Copts to use their rites while following Rome is an acknowledgement of Rome of the au…
But whose fault is it that some chose to abandon the faith, is it Rome by adopting local cultures? Or is the Coptic Church for not caring of her children? Or is it the people who go after false faith for whatever gain they my attain?
I believe adop…
It is surprising to me that some are attacking the Coptic Catholics for using our Coptic rite .. we do the same in other Churches. We adopt the local culture and mix it with the Coptic rite. Nothing wrong with that.
The sad part is some Egyptians a…
The cymbals are not played during the weekdays. What, then, gives the jurisdiction to chant the verses of the CYMBALS (which are chanted in a joyful tune annually)? Is not silence more fitting for the day than a joyful hymn?
This is a misconcept…
The hymn of kyrieleyson is the original hymn after the Thanksgiving prayer and was used to be chanted all year around.
After the introduction of the verses of the cymbals, the chanters quickly say kyrielayson to have time to chant the verses of the…
What I mean is, it bothers me that we have a Coptic Orthodox Church, an Ethiopian Orthodox, a Syrian Orthodox, an Armenian Orthodox and a British Orthodox Church in the UK.
Why?
Because each Church you mentioned has its own rites and liturgical pr…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12394.msg152134#msg152134 date=1329499818]
It's irrelevant how you think Paphnoti is pronounced in Sahidic or how Paphnoti should be pronounced in Sahidic. I'm telling you it is not babnoudi or babnouda. Every unive…
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[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=12914.msg152016#msg152016 date=1329373060]
Mina,
can you provide a source?
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Anba Mettaous rite book.....and imikhail's word :…
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Mina,
can you provide a source?
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Minatasgeel is correct ...
The source is tarteeb albay3a
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12907.msg151984#msg151984 date=1329341458]
Ok. I'm done arguing too. And I see why Fr Peter choose not to argue either. I don't think he should respond again since he already discussed what the Church fathers have s…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12907.msg151981#msg151981 date=1329339991]
The Reconciliation prayer of St Basil,
The litany of the deceased,
The bathing prayer.[/quote]
Plea…
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Imikhail,
You are so very confused my friend. I will let Fr. Peter give his response.
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Your assessment ...
By the way, to say that Christ had an immortal human…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12907.msg151977#msg151977 date=1329338094]
Maybe you should give us reference of liturgical prayers that you speak of. None of the liturgical prayers I am aware of even suggest such thing.
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The Reconciliatio…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=12907.msg151964#msg151964 date=1329329450]
Imikhail
Are you implying that Christ's humanity was immortal? If not then He must have had the fallen nature. When you say our nature became corrupted with sin then you…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg151946#msg151946 date=1329311492]
Food for thought: Did any of the saints you listed above attend a church in which they could no…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg151948#msg151948 date=1329311632]
I have to disagree. Praying in a Dead language doesnt increase interest in the Church, …