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But I thought there is no raising of the incense in funeral prayers, since funerals are not required to be done with a liturgy/Eucharist. I don't see what the connection is between the raising of incense and funeral services. The raising of incense…
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No. It is the current application of the rite. The original rite of the church only requires water to be prayed on for a funeral after Easter. What is your source?
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So if someone didn't attend the general funeral prayer on Palm Sunday and died during the Pascha week, you're saying no funeral will be ever done after Easter? You're saying "Funeral prayers are not done again"? No funeral prayer is done during th…
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The general funeral should be attended by all the congregation in case someone passes away during the Holy week. If this happens the funeral prayers are not done again.
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We do not believe in transubstantiation but a change of wine into blood, and bread to flesh of Jesus just as what happened during the last supper.
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[quote author=caji link=topic=13105.msg154370#msg154370 date=1333770578] OK lets get some things straightened out here: Annunciation = Major Feast of the Lord Lazarus Saturday = Fixed Day (not feast) Annunciation can not be missed, so there will b…
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There is a purpose that you were not born in the Coptic Church or as an Orthodox. Your Evangelical background is an asset in terms of witnessing to those who are of your former faith. You will be more effective than one who has never experienced t…
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When we read Genesis carefully, we find that Adam was the one entrusted with the commandment not Eve. Adam was supposed to be the guardian of God's commandment sine God spoke to him directly and warned him of not sinning. Eve took the commandment …
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In communion we partake of the Word incarnate. What I meant is that the flesh and spirit did not lose its essence of being human nature because they were unified with the divinity. Continue with the next section of chapter 7 (no 42) as St Athanasi…
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It is all about educating others. We need to accept people with simplicity and not rebuke them. We were once ignorant and now we may think we know. Let's bear the weakness of others and with love make them aware of what they are missing.
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St Athanasius is saying that the Word has created e everything in the universe so in essence His imprint is in everything. Wherever we look we know that the craftiness of the Word is there. The Word is in the universe through His energies not His …
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The last Friday is prayed like week days up until klinoman then the rite switches to that of Saturdays and Sundays
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=13105.msg154143#msg154143 date=1333471655] Dear imikhail, In your last point, does that mean "the liturgy including the readings of the feast of the Cross"? If so, what are the rites for matins service? Oujai qen `P…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13105.msg154147#msg154147 date=1333475152] So what is the final verdict? Do we pray the Annunciation rite or Lazarus Saturday rite? I haven't seen a clear cut answer. Just conflicting answers from different diaconat…
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Here they are: During Great Lent: [li] If it falls on Saturday or Sunday, the Lenten tune is replaced with the Cross tune (the Sha’anini ) along with the annual one. [/li] [li] If it falls on any weekday, except Friday, then the liturgy of t…
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There are many references in the NT of intercessions especially in the book of Revelation. I will not cite them all but a great example is that of those slain under the altar asking God to punish the evil people. This means that the saints do know …
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=13105.msg154042#msg154042 date=1333374277] Ok, I wasn't aware of that of course imikhail, but let me simply ask: if the feast of the Cross falls on a Sunday during LEnt, why don't we use the same argument? In fact i…
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I second ophadece
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It has been set from the 13th century that Lazarus day is fixed even if the feast of annunciation falls on that same day. Also, the feast of annunciation used to be prayed in the annual tune during the great lent. It was not until the 17th century …
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Do not focus on the letter but the spirit. During the pascha week we should dedicate all our time to remembering how our sins sent our Lord to crucifixion. If watching aghapy or CTV would help you in accomplishing this goal, then do it. Hopefully …
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[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=13080.msg153938#msg153938 date=1333145914] imike, Could you expound on that thought? [/quote] The Passover lamb was to be killed on the 14th of Nisan at the 9th hour (3:00 PM), then prepared which extended i…
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On a side note of this discussion. The Jews changed the day of the Pascha feast the year they crucified our Lord. This was done intentionally and with malice so that they could kill the Lord.
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The Bible tells us that we should be aware of those around us and not to accompany or befriend sinners when they insist on sinning. Do not get me wrong. We are all sinners but some of us acknowledge our sins and repent. Homosexuality is different…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13084.msg153756#msg153756 date=1332871314] you wouldn't have a digital version of tarteeb elbaya3a.....i been trying to find it for a while now. [/quote] No, it is not available digitally at this time.
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Tarteeb AlBay3a I gave the exact reference before. Also if you need detailed tehnical explanations .. an excellent source are the books by Fr.Athanasius Al Makary. For this particular topic consult his book titled Fast of Nineveh and Great Lent (A…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13084.msg153751#msg153751 date=1332870454] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13084.msg153750#msg153750 date=1332870364] The verses of the cymbals are new additions to the original rite. That is why they do not ha…
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The verses of the cymbals are new additions to the original rite. That is why they do not have their own verses. They borrow from the doxologies. The same is true for the braxis response. As for the Gospel Responses of awniatk, shara, ... these ar…
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It is the festal doxology tune.
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Bi wyk is an adam hymn. The way it is composed follows the Adam way of composing as ophadece explained.
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The last two verses after Ja baniwt concerning St.Mary are not authentic but he addition. They are dogmatically wrong. In addition, they have nothing to do with the fast and linguistically, they have mistakes. They should not be said.