Just a clarification:
It is not clockwise or counterclockwise, it has to do with West to EAST and EAST to West.
Normal procession from West to East against the Sun's setting to signify eternity.
It just happens that the clocks move with sun's set…
We certainly love Pope Shenouda He is one of the greatest patriarchs, the Church has received. Yet, we still abide by the Church rites regarding the saints' commemoration.
In the hidanis we ray that the prayers of the saints we mentioned may protec…
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Where in the Bible preferably in the new Testament, do we find Chrismation? My priest told me in 1 John, but i can't really find it. I know that at first the apostles did it…
What does friendship mean? Does it mean that I go along as if my friend's ideology is ok?
In other words what is the parameter of this friendship and on what basis from which does it evolve?
There are so many examples in the Bible from which we ca…
Just a clarification:
Through Baptism, we receive the newness of life and we are restored to incorruptibly which would be completely achieved in heaven.
Through Chrismation, we receive the Holy Spirit and are able to preserve the new man.
Two …
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I don't believe we can jump to locking this thread until we get a response from jeanreyes (I think we'd be jumping the gun).
However, there seems to be nothing wrong with a ga…
Before start quoting the Bible, we need to understand why baptism is essential for salvation.
Through the Fall of Adam and Eve, corruption entered into the world and the human nature fell under the curse of death because of that corruption. There w…
The bible is very clear that we should be separate from the world and not to befriend it.
We should not befriend those who insist on sinning and call sin normal.
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and lig…
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imikhail,
Then what validates the "modern" hymn to be chanted if it wasn't handed down? That means we made up our own tunes and are still willing to openly chant them. That …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13245.msg155151#msg155151 date=1335913230]
Your observation is correct. If there is no source then do not invent one.
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It's amazin…
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imikhail, which books says that btw?
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Not sure what you are asking .
The instructions I mentioned are found in
Dallal Al baskha manuscript of 7arat al room, A…
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The curtain of the main altar is changed to white. Everything else remains the same. This is …
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How is it possible not to be descendants of the Pharaohs?
The Pharaohs lived in Egypt, the population largely remained intact until the Arab Invasion.
Since we know that any op…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13245.msg155151#msg155151 date=1335913230]
Your observation is correct. If there is no source then do not invent one.
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but how …
Stating that Coptic music comes from Pharaonic music, without any evidence, is like claiming African Americans are the modern sons of Last Chinese Dynasty. Sure they might be some evidence to claim similarities. But you can't claim a direct causal …
Let me quote an opinion I found in an online blog. It nicely summarizes what I've been saying:
"It is with such paradoxical emotion that I admit that I, as an Egyptian, am a descendant of the ancient Pharaohs. The obvious and undeniable feeling tha…
It is not strange to say Coptic hymns are rooted in the Pharaonic culture. However, without evidence, it is no more valid to say Coptic hymns are rooted in Pharaonic culture than it is to say Coptic hymns are rooted in Islam or Coptic hymns are roo…
If there is no mixing religion with ethnicity, is Coptic alhan exclusively religious and non-ethnic?
It is both. The music is ethnic. The whole discussion is about the music not the words.
In conjunction, is Pharaonic music exclusively religiou…
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Three ways for Ooniatk are being taught, HCOC's way with different words, Abouna Asheya al Moharaqqi (different tune in the first verse), M. Zaher or whoever in Tanta (diff…
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Who are the Pharoahs? They are the early inhabitants of Egypt.
Who are the descendants of Pha…
Who are the Pharoahs? They are the early inhabitants of Egypt.
Who are the descendants of Pharaoh? The modern Copts.
Every nation has a folklore, culture and a certain way of composing musing and singing songs. It is true that we cannot link a c…
There is a difference between hymns and spiritual songs. Spiritual songs are not liturgical .. hymns are. It is not proper for anyone to come up with a hymn, borrow a hymn from another Church and start chanting it as if it part of our Church heritag…
How can faith alone saves while the Lord on the Last Day says:
33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom pre…
The Church prayers of the Epiphany feast do give us the answer as to why Jesus baptized.
He cleansed, renewed, and sanctified our humanity through His Baptism.
Please read the prayers of the Laquan of the Epiphany.