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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13611.msg159107#msg159107 date=1345419784] I do not believe intimate mediation has to do with it. I do. As the people needed mediation in the OT, so in the NT. Sure! Hence intercessions and the like. Lets no…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13611.msg159105#msg159105 date=1345418915] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13611.msg159068#msg159068 date=1345215551] Whoever thinks that the Lord paid the price of sins on the Cross This is the essence o…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13611.msg159104#msg159104 date=1345418490] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13611.msg159066#msg159066 date=1345213922] Ninth: Whoever says that the Patriarch is the head of the Church, or says so in theory…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13627.msg159099#msg159099 date=1345331270] Imikhail, this concept is logically incoherent with your previous position where you stated, To say that a child is doomed from birth is to assert that an unbapti…
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.. i would like to say that i reject the notion that we inherit the sin, this will only logically lead to the catholic belief in original guilt, which they DO believe in. I do not understand why we are not sinners from birth? Why we are not doomed…
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[quote author=gr link=topic=13638.msg159081#msg159081 date=1345263456] I also wish others on this site a fond farewell. I'm afraid that with Fr. Peter's departure, the voice of reason and patristics will be drowned out by the noise of a few posters…
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[quote author=Purity2 link=topic=13627.msg159072#msg159072 date=1345216785] Sin means just that sin, whether u want to say sinful nature or actual sin that Adam committed...it is the same. God help us!!! [/quote] i agree with Purity2. However, som…
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Whoever imagines that the Lord died to unite justice with mercy, and that “eternal sins” required an eternal redemption; then he has by this given sin a divine attribute, which is the attribute of eternality, and made a god out of sin and sinners. …
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Twelfth: Whoever denies that we are partakers of the divine nature (1 Pet. 2:4), and that this is partaking in immortality, adoption, resurrection, and inheritance of the Kingdom; then he he has denied the the divinity of the Lord, who has given us…
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Whoever thinks that the Lord paid the price of sins on the Cross This is the essence of Christianity.
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[quote author=Severian link=topic=13611.msg159065#msg159065 date=1345213886] ^Does not even Saint Ephraim the Syrian say that a Priest is a mediator between God and man? [/quote] The word priest in Arabic and Hebrew "Kahen" originally means mediato…
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Ninth: Whoever says that the Patriarch is the head of the Church, or says so in theory; then he as denied the leadership of Christ, the head, from whom grows every member of the body (Col. 2:19), and he no longer has eternal hope in God, because h…
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Whoever thinks that the bishop or priest, etc., are the mediators between himself and the Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord; then he has fallen far from the grace that comes from and is given by the Lord Jesus Christ alone. I am not sure what is the s…
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There is a difference between inheriting sinful nature and inheriting the actual sin itself that Adam committed. We all from our birth inherited the sinful nature as it is passed from generation to the next.
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[quote author=Severian link=topic=13627.msg159012#msg159012 date=1345067571] ^Thanks for the reply. Later I will try to find relevant Patristic quotes. But to clarify, in the Orthodox Church we do not believe we inherit Adam's actual sin or guilt, r…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13452.msg159014#msg159014 date=1345072145] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13452.msg158960#msg158960 date=1345058742] [quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13452.msg158952#msg158952 date=1345055258] One more thing. …
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Least of All Before I address your question and show you that my logic is not faulty as you claim (because I am certain that you are misunderstanding my points), I want you to answer me this question: Do you think the quote from St. Gregory liturg…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=9585.msg159019#msg159019 date=1345080492] You are avoiding the point, the point is that by your logic one can claim that because St. Severus' name is mentioned in the absolution of the servants (in fact is t…
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Ok Imikhail, if we go with your logic and the liturgical prayers deserve the highest precedence (I dont agree), then we must understand that the absolution (which you mentioned) is a part and parcel with it and thus indicates who's writings are inf…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg159011#msg159011 date=1345067302] Regardless of what mistake or how small it was, you knew that there was a mistake! Why did you know this? My question is not why there was a mistake, but how you knew…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg159004#msg159004 date=1345066088] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg159001#msg159001 date=1345065738] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158998#msg158998 date=1345065474] How can…
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[quote author=JG link=topic=9585.msg159002#msg159002 date=1345065780] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg159000#msg159000 date=1345065557] I am saddened that you accuse me of such a thing and I do ask you to tell me where did I say that and i…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158998#msg158998 date=1345065474] How can talking with God, performing His sacraments do not contain Him Called human error, and God's grace. Theology is not God. theology is the study of God. An inco…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=9585.msg158997#msg158997 date=1345065383] I don't know them all. But you have discovered that St Severus teaches error, a fact that had escaped the whole Church previously, therefore it may be that some of the o…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=9585.msg158994#msg158994 date=1345065023] The prayers within the Oriental Orthodox Church are different. Are all authoritative? They are all the prayers of the Church being prayed by the Fathers. [/quote] Bef…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158992#msg158992 date=1345064786] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158989#msg158989 date=1345064487] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158988#msg158988 date=1345064153] [quote …
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=9585.msg158990#msg158990 date=1345064537] The Liturgical prayers and the sacraments have different texts in the different Orthodox Churches. Which should be followed as authoritative? [/quote] For me it would …
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158988#msg158988 date=1345064153] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158987#msg158987 date=1345063863] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158986#msg158986 date=1345063644] [quote …
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158986#msg158986 date=1345063644] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158985#msg158985 date=1345063537] [quote author=The least of all link=topic=9585.msg158982#msg158982 date=1345063196] So Imi…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=9585.msg158982#msg158982 date=1345063196] So Imikhail, you are saying that the liturgical prayers of the church take precedence, but then you said that understanding it properly needs you to understand the O…