@mcarmichael
No idea, but I suspect any difference is not significant. Otherwise how could they simultaneously affirm 'one person' and 'two qnoma'.
That being said, the orthodoxy of the Assyrian Church is controversial in many Orthodox circles, so…
Initially to Hades (although in a 'less intense' part of Hades as compared to the unrepentant sinners), and then when Christ "descended into Hades through the Cross", he freed them and so they entered Paradise.
'Qnoma' roughly translates to hypostasis, not person (in Arabic, hypostasis is 'qnome', while person is 'shakhs').
The problem is that the Assyrians do indeed say about Christ that he is one person, but that he is 2 qnome, ie 2 hypostases.
The EO …
@EsmoEpchois
The article had no actual conclusion/solution, it just described a so-called 'problem'. So I don't know what her conclusion is going to be, and whether it's going to be off-topic or not.
In any case, I really dislike the aims of the b…
What does everyone think about reading Catholic books, like the Imitation of Christ? It has been criticised by some Orthodox priests, eg Fr Seraphim Rose:
"But there is another more common, less spectacular form of spiritual deception, which offers…
@dg920
"The concept of general bishops without seats is relatively new anyway so obviously it would make sense that they wouldnt say confirm him on his throne"
100% agreed
"I will ask him and see when and who gave him the instruction."
Thanks plea…
@coptic_deacon
St Habib Girgis was most certainly a papal candidate (although he only received 1 vote or something).
I read this in one of the articles circulated at the time of the diocesan bishops controversy prior to the latest papal election. I…
@minasoliman
Have you ever considered that the theory of evolution *presupposes* the fact that creation was a natural scientific process without divine intervention (save perhaps at the outset)?
How can you use science to authoritatively characteris…
What about the argument that the bishop and the people around him represent the whole catholic Church, not part of it? And that a monastery cannot be 'catholic', because it is only comprised of males.
And if a monastery is a city of monks, why is a…
@drewhalim
1. Isn't the patriarch also praying with the bishop of the diocese's permission? Should we then mention the bishop of the diocese before the patriarch?!
2. That's very interesting, but I think you have misunderstood what I was originall…
@drewhalim
Thanks for adding another version to confuse us all :)
Where does the bishop of that PARTICULAR diocese that is being prayed in fit into this? Between 5 and 6? And if he is a metropolitan, between 4 and 5?
And obviously the ordering wit…
@drewhalim
The Coptic is 'ethronos' though, which translates to throne not seat. While they may have seats in the Holy Synod, they certainly don't have thrones.
Just because 'beloved of Christ' is not appropriate, does not mean that 'confirm him on…
@EsmoEpchois
So Bishop Moussa comes before Anba David?
Cos that would contradict Mina and Drew.
Also, what does everyone think of the order provided by Wikipedia?
"I agree with Drew. It's by primacy of honor of the ordained order, and then age. So Metropoltian>Bishop>General Bishop"
If Drew and Mina agree, that must be the consensus patrum of tasbeha.org! :)
However, if we accept this, then this opens…
@Remnkemi
Actually, I believe that Ibrahim Ayad was correct in his ordering, as Bishop Mattaos has the Great Eskeem, and thus is mentioned directly after HH the Pope, even before the bishop of that particular diocese.
"So why is a diocese bishop m…
@drewhalim
Are you sure about #2?
It doesn't quite make sense, since if an old general bishop gets enthroned he will suddenly leap ahead of all the younger diocesan bishops who were enthroned before him. Surely then the date of ordination to bisho…
@Remnkemi
You've just contradicted yourself:
"And what makes you think "bypassing Sayedna's suggestion or pastoral decisions" doesn't happen to diocesan bishops? It does." - you then followed this up by saying that it was not an aberration.
"Yes, yo…
"Regarding diocesan bishops (and this might appear as a loophole): If a person complained to the pope, and assuming it was a legitimate grievance, the pope can initiate disciplinary action as president of the Synod. Of course, this would require syn…
@Remnkemi
You are misunderstanding me. All the examples you provide are an appeal to someone else who actually has authority. The Pope has no authority over a diocese that is not his own.
@Remnkemi
Yes, Eastern Canada means Montreal. You are also correct about Bishop Mina's diocese of Western Canada. Central Canada includes only the part of Toronto that is east of Mississauga. It is extremely small (geographically that is, certainly…
"And what makes you think "bypassing Sayedna's suggestion or pastoral decisions" doesn't happen to diocesan bishops? It does."
That is an aberration. It shouldn't happen. The only authority (apart from God and an ecumenical council) above the dioce…
@minasoliman
"HH Pope St. Kyrillos did the right thing for not including general bishops in the Synod."
If, when you say 'general bishops', you mean Bishops Shenouda, Samuel, and Gregorios, they were most definitely members of the Synod.
Evidence:…
"Blessed" Augustine?
inb4 30 pages of posts.
RE David Mangan, apparently: "David was one of the participants on the retreat in February of 1967 where events took place that are often marked as the beginning of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. He h…
@ophadece
Usually I don't mind pursuing a relevant tangent to the discussion at hand. And I do believe the correct spelling of Paope and Paone is a relevant tangent. But the topic of correct Coptic pronunciation already has numerous other threads …
@cyril
General bishops should be abolished. All bishops should be diocesan/enthroned.
See: http://canon15.nicaea.ca/index.php/contemporary-articles/61-general-bishops-in-the-coptic-orthodox-church-and-the-orthodox-tradition