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Is anyone here rushed?
Is anyone here rushed when doing the tasbeha? Does your priest/head-of-deacons (mo3alim) cut you short to finish the doxologies?
How does that make you feel?
How does that make you feel?
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IT MAKES ME ANGRY cuz i don't feel like i am praying it, i am just singing it. Plus i would be lucky if my church did tasbeha, nobody stays around, i usually end up doing it with my brother in my room at home.
Yes they do!
IT MAKES ME ANGRY cuz i don't feel like i am praying it, i am just singing it. Plus i would be lucky if my church did tasbeha, nobody stays around, i usually end up doing it with my brother in my room at home.
I concur.
Thats great!! .. just a suggestion though (from experience), try to stay at church and pray it there because when people see you guys doing it they will join in with you in prayer and hopefully one day there will be a good group of you guys that do it every week. Try to encourage people to stay as well. You are so lucky to have a brother to share the same interests! :)
Rushing you up is not something that happens only with tasbeha. Can happen at any part of the liturgy, or any part of day. How many times we rush ourselves unconsciously when we are praying through the agbeya? My tuppence is even though you are rushed, try to meditate as much as possible on the saint, whose doxology is being said, and if some are skipped, ask them in your mind. Sometimes keeping silent can be a sign for others to respect you and sing the doxologies, and at the same time you earn the benefit and of course the blessing of praying through them.
[coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
It was a trade off between praising God awesomely on Bright Saturday, or appreciating the story of Suzanna.. and the story of Suzanna can be read anyway by yourself during an interlude.
Its not nice being rushed - is it?
No Zoxsasi, of course it is not nice. I wasn't hinting on taking it easy either, but the whole point I was trying to make is that the evil one may distract you because of this and prevent you from taking the blessings of the prayers even when they are so fast, and when they are skipped. Let's be more astute and smarter than it, and try every way possible of taking the blessings in all situations, until you become the church hymns teacher, or priest, and then you can request all people not to rush things, including hymns, and Bible readings.
[coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
Yes they do!
IT MAKES ME ANGRY cuz i don't feel like i am praying it, i am just singing it. Plus i would be lucky if my church did tasbeha, nobody stays around, i usually end up doing it with my brother in my room at home.
MY CHURCH NEVER DID TASBEHA (regularly)! but after 3sheya me and a friend would just start tasbeha.... this started last year
now we have a good amount of people that stay every week
just gotta be presistent and find a key to your church :D
On the positive side, we got a lot of blessings ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Please pray that we would have some participation in church
as you say, God blesses you.
pray for those who don't go and keep yourselves close to God.
:)
I cannot believe the amount of disrespect some priests have for the tasbeha! it is unbelievable.
I understand that many of them do not like Coptic because the congregation does not understand it, but there are hymns where the Coptic is essentially very easy to understand.
Hiten ...
Ten-O-Osht..
Hos Erof Ari-ho-etchasf... etc..
I don't know what their problem is.
And hardly ANY priest I know encourages the tasbeha (in the UK). They couldn't care less about it, nor have they even done it with the youth.
Its a shame. It is a jewel of the Orthodox Church, and its words are very meaningful.
I am sad to see books like the Art of Prayer - talking about "Arrow Prayers" and their importance, and its all written by Greek/Russian clergy, and our Psalmody is FULL TO THE BRIM with Arrow Prayers, and no one even cares.
I asked if we could do the joyful tune for the verses of the cymbals, and hardly NO ONE is in the Church, and my FoC said NO - because no one knows it.
But no one is even there that early to be concerned with it!!! What is that!?
well abanoub, the past three months my brother and i stayed at church every week and done tasbeha, nobody even cared about the prayer going on in the church. And also, my church only gives keys to the church servants and my parents aren't church servants neither is my brother or me.
On the positive side, we got a lot of blessings ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Please pray that we would have some participation in church
dont worry i have done COUTNLESS two person tasbehas. Just me and a friend. And once you start thinking about it tasbeha is about praying..... if other people arent showing up it's just hurting them.