Epchois...I am with you that we have been set on a horrible path. But you cant call war the greater of these two evils!
Here are the facts....
Worldwide there are 42 million babies killed each year That’s approx. 115,000 abortions per DAY!!!
And if you think that abortion is less violent then war... Watch this video..
I must warn you though...its very graphic and may scar people for life. But I included it because its the TRUTH and what is happening in the world so frequently and with little regard.
"Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is His reward. As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."—Psalm 127:3-5.
Dont think think a child is a human at conception? "My substance was not hidden from Thee, when I was made in secret, and intricately wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unformed; and in Thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. "—Psalm 139: 15-16.
We are children of God before birth!
So please dont ever call war more evil then abortion....because in both cases lives are lost in a horrible way.
Also, who said that we need to pick one or the other? Why cant we disagree with both?
You might be saying this because democrats want to end the war on Iraq but legalize abortion and republicans want to continue with the war and end abortion.
If this is why you said that, then you are very wrong.....
Democrats may want to end the war on Iraq but did you know that Obama wants to start a war in Pakistan?
Yes, he wants to end the war in Iraq...but his mind is still thinking of war.
Why did he say this so early in the campaign? Repeating it would have opened so many eyes. Notice that the media also did not repeat this since then because by doing things like this they ultimatley led him to victory. Dont be blinded by the media my friend.
Sorry, neither candidate was much better then the other and neither war nor abortion is worse then the other.
I am sorry my reply is so lengthy...but the subject calls for it.
I agree with Susy! I am not saying that having people die in war is a good thing. but only thousands of men are dieing while u have millions of babies dieing. and when soldiers die they are known as Veterans. The people remember them for serving for our country. but wut do the babies get. they don't get anything. If a girl choses to have sex she should deal with the consequences. Unless the woman is in risk of dieing? well is that allowed in our church? but anyways if thre is nothing wrong with the girl then she should deal with the consequences. Abortion is mostly because of teens who had sex before marriage. If teens didn't have abortion and they concieved a baby we would have less teens having sex because they would see how hard it is. But all teens care about is making a mistake and getting away with it. well if they get away with it they will never learn. They wil do it agian and again. and wut is wrong with putting ur baby up for adoption? why should u kill him/her. ur not going to gain anything! but u'll be called a murderer. Obama was asked a question about abortion. They asked,"If a baby is aborted and comes out of the mother's womb but is still alive wut will u do? Will u give it medical help?" His answer was no i would leave it to die.
Also!!! Mcain and Obama were asked a question. They were asked," Wen does a baby has HUMAN RIGHTS?" In my opinion a baby should have human rights from the moment of conception. If u want to know the answer from both sidess here is some videos..................
If someone would like to correct me in anything i have said wrong plz do!
[quote author=*Regretful+Sinner* link=topic=7283.msg98757#msg98757 date=1230135857] I agree with Susy! I am not saying that having people die in war is a good thing. but only thousands of men are dieing while u have millions of babies dieing. and when soldiers die they are known as Veterans. The people remember them for serving for our country. but wut do the babies get. they don't get anything. If a girl choses to have sex she should deal with the consequences. Unless the woman is in risk of dieing? well is that allowed in our church? but anyways if thre is nothing wrong with the girl then she should deal with the consequences. Abortion is mostly because of teens who had sex before marriage. If teens didn't have abortion and they concieved a baby we would have less teens having sex because they would see how hard it is. But all teens care about is making a mistake and getting away with it. well if they get away with it they will never learn. They wil do it agian and again. and wut is wrong with putting ur baby up for adoption? why should u kill him/her. ur not going to gain anything! but u'll be called a murderer. Obama was asked a question about abortion. They asked,"If a baby is aborted and comes out of the mother's womb but is still alive wut will u do? Will u give it medical help?" His answer was no i would leave it to die.
Also!!! Mcain and Obama were asked a question. They were asked," Wen does a baby has HUMAN RIGHTS?" In my opinion a baby should have human rights from the moment of conception. If u want to know the answer from both sidess here is some videos..................
If someone would like to correct me in anything i have said wrong plz do!
Forgive me regretful + sinner, but I must disagree with you, in war not only soldiers die, but many innocent men, women and children. Also many are left with scars (both mental and physical). Many families are torn apart, homes destroyed, ... And worst of all, it breads hatred into the hearts and mind of people and ends up dragging them into a vicious circle of violence!
I'm anti-abortion, not just because I'm a christian, but because I'm a human being, and abortion is murder, no matter how you look at it! But the fact of the matter is, you can stop a war from happening and from taking more innocent lives, but you can't stop abortion. You can make it illegal and thus punishable by law, but you can't stop it, it will continue being done anyways. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it by outlawing it and putting harsh punishments, but I do give more priority to stopping wars!!!
Forgive me regretful + sinner, but I must disagree with you, in war not only soldiers die, but many innocent men, women and children. Also many are left with scars (both mental and physical). Many families are torn apart, homes destroyed, ... And worst of all, it breads hatred into the hearts and mind of people and ends up dragging them into a vicious circle of violence!
I'm anti-abortion, not just because I'm a christian, but because I'm a human being, and abortion is murder, no matter how you look at it! But the fact of the matter is, you can stop a war from happening and from taking more innocent lives, but you can't stop abortion. You can make it illegal and thus punishable by law, but you can't stop it, it will continue being done anyways. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it by outlawing it and putting harsh punishments, but I do give more priority to stopping wars!!!
God bless you please pray for my weakness
I don't mind that u disagree with me it is your opinion and u do have a point about the inccent people who r dieing from the war, srry i didn't put that in mind. but in my opinion if we have a law not allowing abortion then less people would have it. i am not saying it will fully stop!! but the chance of abortion will be much less. and maybe every year it will lesson and then we will have no more!
But ppl have their own opinions on this no way we will get to a compromise!!
ok people, the election is over. Obama won. What we can do now is pray that God will help him and guide him throughout his presidency. Sin is sin no matter what. One sin is not greater than the other since they all lead to death. Does the church support abortion? Only in the must extreme of circumstances. Those being that the mothers life is in danger and the only way to save her is through abortion. Is war wrong? Well if it is, why did od command the people of Israel to destroy the inhabitants of Canaan? I think that both causes result in death. Having this debate wont change anything. As for myself, I supported McCain, because I believed in his ideals and his experience. When people voted, what they first worried about was the economy. Both parties described their plan, and America happened to like socialism better. No one voted based on the war or abortion, but on the econommic crisis that we are still in. Obama did say he wanted a war with Pakistan. Now, my ideaology was what is better. US vs. 60,000 people or US vs. 600,000 people? Rest with the debate...
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But you cant call war the greater of these two evils!
Here are the facts....
Worldwide there are 42 million babies killed each year
That’s approx. 115,000 abortions per DAY!!!
And if you think that abortion is less violent then war...
Watch this video..
I must warn you though...its very graphic and may scar people for life.
But I included it because its the TRUTH and what is happening in the world so frequently and with little regard.
"Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is His reward. As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."—Psalm 127:3-5.
Dont think think a child is a human at conception?
"My substance was not hidden from Thee, when I was made in secret, and intricately wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unformed; and in Thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. "—Psalm 139: 15-16.
We are children of God before birth!
So please dont ever call war more evil then abortion....because in both cases lives are lost in a horrible way.
Also, who said that we need to pick one or the other? Why cant we disagree with both?
You might be saying this because democrats want to end the war on Iraq but legalize abortion and republicans want to continue with the war and end abortion.
If this is why you said that, then you are very wrong.....
Democrats may want to end the war on Iraq but did you know that Obama wants to start a war in Pakistan?
Yes, he wants to end the war in Iraq...but his mind is still thinking of war.
Why did he say this so early in the campaign?
Repeating it would have opened so many eyes.
Notice that the media also did not repeat this since then because by doing things like this they ultimatley led him to victory. Dont be blinded by the media my friend.
Sorry, neither candidate was much better then the other and neither war nor abortion is worse then the other.
I am sorry my reply is so lengthy...but the subject calls for it.
Also!!! Mcain and Obama were asked a question. They were asked," Wen does a baby has HUMAN RIGHTS?" In my opinion a baby should have human rights from the moment of conception. If u want to know the answer from both sidess here is some videos..................
If someone would like to correct me in anything i have said wrong plz do!
I agree with Susy! I am not saying that having people die in war is a good thing. but only thousands of men are dieing while u have millions of babies dieing. and when soldiers die they are known as Veterans. The people remember them for serving for our country. but wut do the babies get. they don't get anything. If a girl choses to have sex she should deal with the consequences. Unless the woman is in risk of dieing? well is that allowed in our church? but anyways if thre is nothing wrong with the girl then she should deal with the consequences. Abortion is mostly because of teens who had sex before marriage. If teens didn't have abortion and they concieved a baby we would have less teens having sex because they would see how hard it is. But all teens care about is making a mistake and getting away with it. well if they get away with it they will never learn. They wil do it agian and again. and wut is wrong with putting ur baby up for adoption? why should u kill him/her. ur not going to gain anything! but u'll be called a murderer. Obama was asked a question about abortion. They asked,"If a baby is aborted and comes out of the mother's womb but is still alive wut will u do? Will u give it medical help?" His answer was no i would leave it to die.
Also!!! Mcain and Obama were asked a question. They were asked," Wen does a baby has HUMAN RIGHTS?" In my opinion a baby should have human rights from the moment of conception. If u want to know the answer from both sidess here is some videos..................
If someone would like to correct me in anything i have said wrong plz do!
Forgive me regretful + sinner, but I must disagree with you, in war not only soldiers die, but many innocent men, women and children. Also many are left with scars (both mental and physical). Many families are torn apart, homes destroyed, ... And worst of all, it breads hatred into the hearts and mind of people and ends up dragging them into a vicious circle of violence!
I'm anti-abortion, not just because I'm a christian, but because I'm a human being, and abortion is murder, no matter how you look at it! But the fact of the matter is, you can stop a war from happening and from taking more innocent lives, but you can't stop abortion. You can make it illegal and thus punishable by law, but you can't stop it, it will continue being done anyways.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it by outlawing it and putting harsh punishments, but I do give more priority to stopping wars!!!
God bless you
please pray for my weakness
Forgive me regretful + sinner, but I must disagree with you, in war not only soldiers die, but many innocent men, women and children. Also many are left with scars (both mental and physical). Many families are torn apart, homes destroyed, ... And worst of all, it breads hatred into the hearts and mind of people and ends up dragging them into a vicious circle of violence!
I'm anti-abortion, not just because I'm a christian, but because I'm a human being, and abortion is murder, no matter how you look at it! But the fact of the matter is, you can stop a war from happening and from taking more innocent lives, but you can't stop abortion. You can make it illegal and thus punishable by law, but you can't stop it, it will continue being done anyways.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it by outlawing it and putting harsh punishments, but I do give more priority to stopping wars!!!
God bless you
please pray for my weakness
I don't mind that u disagree with me it is your opinion and u do have a point about the inccent people who r dieing from the war, srry i didn't put that in mind. but in my opinion if we have a law not allowing abortion then less people would have it. i am not saying it will fully stop!! but the chance of abortion will be much less. and maybe every year it will lesson and then we will have no more!
But ppl have their own opinions on this no way we will get to a compromise!!