Hi. This topic is not that spiritual but I am really eager for an answer.
The kingdom of israel was divided into two groups in the old testament: Judah and Israel. The Judah section consisted of two tribes: Judah and Benjamin. In many of the prophecies, God often spoke of Judah as being more faithful than Israel (e.g. Jeremiah 3:11). Judah is much smaller than Israel. Judah split from Israel about 1000BC.
Could Judah symbolize the orthodox church and Israel symbolize the catholic church?
As I was taught (and my spiritual education is extreemly poor), only catholics and orthodox can enter the kingdom of heaven, (symbolized by the promise land-israel and judah).
In as much as the Judah kingdom consisted of two tribes, the orthodox church consists of two sectors (eastern and oriental). The eastern orthodox church was excommunicated from catholocism in about 1000AD (1000 years after Christ) like Judah split from israel in 1000BC (1000 years after Abraham). Catholocism is bigger than orthodoxy like israel was bigger than judah.
David origionally became king of Judah, then Israel. Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of judah" in revelation.
St. Paul often talked about the old testament as a "shadow" of new testament things (heb 8:5).
I live in a very unorthodox area. I was wondering if there is anyone who has heard this kind of interpretation before and could tell me of it's acceptability. It came from a very unreliable source. But I like it because it shows much parallelism between the old and new testament. We could apply this kind of thinking to other things: Jew leaving egypt=apostles leaving israel; 40 years in desert=40 days after resurection; kind david=king constantine; pagan worship = church corruption and division; babylon=islam; rome(helps maccabees reestablish israel)=united states(help present day jews reestablish israel); coming of christ=antichrist/second coming of christ.
I apologize if I said anything out of place. Please don't take what I said as deep or meaningful because I don't know how valid it is. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this interpretation. I'm dieing to here what the orthodox church says about this. Unfortunately there are no bishops or monks where I live, and only 1 priest for a large area so I have no one with the wisdom of God in him that I can bring my questions to.
Also, tell me what country you're from when you respond. Thanks
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I'm from Australia, and like many other things, I have never heard of this interpretation - though I find it very interesting... I think there's a saying that says that your past determines (or perhaps foretells is a better word) your future - this could very well be one of those things.
I cannot make a judgement on it's validity, because I am in absolutely no position to do so, and my lack of knowledge does not even give room for opinion... So, I apologise that this isn't much help, but I will try and do some research as soon as I get some time, and, as soon as I do, I will return and write you a useful message.
Sorry!
+God Bless.
I am from the U.S., and I have to say that you must be one smart fellow to find that much in common between our scenario with the Roman Catholics, and the Jews with Israel. I hope that you are correct in proving that our Faith is the true Faith that God Himself finds praise in.
In Christ,
aem581
I'm from Australia, and like many other things, I have never heard of this interpretation - though I find it very interesting... I think there's a saying that says that your past determines (or perhaps foretells is a better word) your future - this could very well be one of those things.
i thought 'the past determines the future' phrase was the opposite, i.e don't let your past determine your future...?
well, that interpretation is really clever i think but i have never heard it before..i guess it would be better if someone takes this question to a priest...ANYONE ????????????
I am interested of your denominational affiliation.
Your statements are quite interesting, although I have never heard such an interpretation.
Maybe Iqbal can chime in on any experience on this issue.
BTW, I have been called "idiot" and I often use it as my sign-on name in certain situations.
Hey dumdum,
BTW, I have been called "idiot" and I often use it as my sign-on name in certain situations.
lol you're funny. however, nobody here is an idiot..and that includes you :)