Hey all...
from what i can gather, a lot of the kids in the forum here are in their youthful years... to twenties
so i thought to ask you guys a question
living in a world with cruel people, and people that God would see as unjust... how should we treat them?
ie... if someone in school bothers you all the time, and u confronted them before... do u talk back or no the next time they bother you?
and please dont tell me that u should turn ur other cheek... because i think we have all heard that enough
ie... girls wear very 'different' clothes now a days... when someone asks you repeatedly y u dont dress 'in style'... what are we supposed to say?
just wanted to get some opinions hear
those are real scenarios, that havent exactly happened to me... but i was just wondering...?
Comments
You should answer back BUT answer back with things that are not bad what i mean is don't use cuss words and so on. Tell them something that will make them shut up.
about people asking you why you don't dress "in style". first of all, its non of their business how you dress, and it shouldn't matter to you how what they think of you or of the way you dress. when they ask, just tell them you feel more comfortable the way your dressed.
anyway, i know that this is really confusing, but i hope any of it makes sense. pray for me
Therefore here are some verses that approve forgivness:
You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor[7] and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[8] 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your brethren[9] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[10] do so? 48Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 5:43-48
Also:
You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.'[6] 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
Matthew 5:38-42
Also I was just reading a book about Aabas el Ghaly, he is a modern saint, and it says that a lot of people came to him and yelled at him and swore at him, yet he always said to himself "Don't be angry Aabas for they did the same to your master...", how powerful!
But I do agree that you have to talk and defend yourself as long as you do not offend. Here is a verse:
19 The high priest then asked Jesus about His disciples and His doctrine.
20Jesus answered him, "I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet,[1] and in secret I have said nothing. 21Why do you ask Me? Ask those who have heard Me what I said to them. Indeed they know what I said."
22And when He had said these things, one of the officers who stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand, saying, "Do You answer the high priest like that?"
23Jesus answered him, "If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil; but if well, why do you strike Me?"
24Then Annas sent Him bound to Caiaphas the high priest.
John 18:19-24
So therefore we should follow what Jesus said, because if they did that to our Master, who are we to say no, I cannot be humiliated like that.
Defender
i understand exactly where your coming from, but i never said to not follow the word of God. its just that these things we have already heard, but sometimes its hard to apply all of them in our lives. and in my opinion, defending yourself isn't far from the word of God. but i understand what your saying though...thanks for the help.
Pray for me
from what i can gather, a lot of the kids in the forum here are in their youthful years... to twenties
so i thought to ask you guys a question
living in a world with cruel people, and people that God would see as unjust... how should we treat them?
ie... if someone in school bothers you all the time, and u confronted them before... do u talk back or no the next time they bother you?
and please dont tell me that u should turn ur other cheek... because i think we have all heard that enough
ie... girls wear very 'different' clothes now a days... when someone asks you repeatedly y u dont dress 'in style'... what are we supposed to say?
just wanted to get some opinions hear
those are real scenarios, that havent exactly happened to me... but i was just wondering...?
Hey,
Well, lets start from the top. When people bother you, first you blow it off, like its nothing. The next time, you politely tell them that this bothers you. The time after that, you step up. Explane to them that they are jerks, nothing but pushovers, and that they need to leave you alone. The whole dressing in style thing, probably isn't that big of a deal. If people ask you why you aren't dressing "in style" tell them that what you are wearing is your style, you shouldn't have to wear what people think is nice. At the same time, don't abuse this, by wearing "nothing" or indescent clothes. When your in college, that sort of thing won't happen, if you have a good group of freinds!
for the way u dress, i simply tell them that i dont like it, or they don't fit me. (the second one usually works with me ;)) cause fashion these days you have to be a toothpick, and i dont like that and im not going to drive myself crazy. ;)
hope this helps
You are at altimes welcome.
I get what you mean and I face that myself, when you go to someone it's like:
Holy Spirit: Turn the other cheek
Pride: Slap him right on the face...
Holy Spirit: No, forgive...
Pride: How can he?
Holy Spirit: God is watching..
Pride: No worries people watching people will think it's funny and they'll know you da man.
Holy Spirit: the Bible says no..
Pride: Your popularity says YES!
Holy Spirit: Listen my son..
Pride: Listen Oh popular one.
Holy Spirit: No...
Pride: Come on..
Holy Spirit: NO!
(SLAP)
That is what happens, we get guidance yet we reject it, and after it happens, "well no one told me it was wrong..."
But you can defend yourself just like Jesus Christ in front of the High Priest when someone slapped him.
Defender
thanx for all the replies, but i just wanted to make it clear that those scenarios dont happen to me... they happen to people, but i havent experienced them that deeply quite yet
they were just examples to a question that was asked, but anywayz, all the responses were GREAT! lol
if you guys have any other similar scenarios and ideas for resolutions, plz post them so that we may also use that path/solution
Thanx
Hey Paul,
You are at altimes welcome.
I get what you mean and I face that myself, when you go to someone it's like:
Holy Spirit: Turn the other cheek
Pride: Slap him right on the face...
Holy Spirit: No, forgive...
Pride: How can he?
Holy Spirit: God is watching..
Pride: No worries people watching people will think it's funny and they'll know you da man.
Holy Spirit: the Bible says no..
Pride: Your popularity says YES!
Holy Spirit: Listen my son..
Pride: Listen Oh popular one.
Holy Spirit: No...
Pride: Come on..
Holy Spirit: NO!
(SLAP)
That is what happens, we get guidance yet we reject it, and after it happens, "well no one told me it was wrong..."
But you can defend yourself just like Jesus Christ in front of the High Priest when someone slapped him.
Defender
hay defender that is true but wit me i dun really fink of dat if sum1 annoys me at skool i annoy em bac de same way if dey even lay a finger on me they have a broken nose in like one second i dun dat wit a gal b4 but not in the nose in the cheek soz but dats my opinion
(u wouldnt really xpect dat out of a gal) dats y ppl do dat they fink im a woosie i dun care whether its a boy or a gal i give it 2 them way bad dats y every1ns nice 2 me
soz i went sidetrakin
Remember what Christ said? If you only do good to those who love you, what reward is there in that? Its very easy to do good to people who love us, this is natural but doing good when it is hard is what Christ wants. Remember the story of Jonah? He had a very hard mission. God told him to go to save the Ninevites and Jonah was like WhAttttTtT??!?! >:(
Dats because they had invaded Israel and God was saying go and save the people who have abused and tormented you. :D
I think you'll also need to curb your boy bashin' ways, I don't wanna get a busted lip! :o
God bless you,
CS :P
It's all cool though, I think Coptic Soldier gave you a nice reply...
;)
Mike
Hey all...
from what i can gather, a lot of the kids in the forum here are in their youthful years... to twenties
so i thought to ask you guys a question
living in a world with cruel people, and people that God would see as unjust... how should we treat them?
ie... if someone in school bothers you all the time, and u confronted them before... do u talk back or no the next time they bother you?
and please dont tell me that u should turn ur other cheek... because i think we have all heard that enough
ie... girls wear very 'different' clothes now a days... when someone asks you repeatedly y u dont dress 'in style'... what are we supposed to say?
just wanted to get some opinions hear
those are real scenarios, that havent exactly happened to me... but i was just wondering...?
If someone bothers you in school, depending on their type of personality...you should either ignore them or try to answer them in a calm manner...without getting angry..in either case pray for whoever is bothering you..that God may change their hearts
about the whole clothes deal...you should be a leader not a follower...so you shouldnt have to follow the way others dress if you find it "inappropriate" however...you could always dress "in style" but wear appropriate clothes ...
Mike
i dont get teh whole deal wiht ripped clothes... everytime i go shopping for myself or my brother.. i see holes in all the clothes...
a priest in an old church i used to attend said that in egypt, they pay for the clothes according to how much material it took up.... now, you pay higher prices for the lesser materialed clothes.... which i found funny.. one of those things u had to be there for... nywayz
i also dont get the faded clothes.... if i wanted to fade clothes, i'd just wear it out on my own
thats exactly rite its like there are no proper clothes these days
God Bless
Nardin
eg. Hegab, Nekab, Hibab, Kabab, Hab Shabab, Kelab, dabab and so on....
lol
Mike
they'll get it...lol ;)
Mike
GUYS THE WORST THING U CAN DO IS GET REVENGE ON SOMEBODY THAT WRONGS U, omg thats such a depressing feeling to feel that somebody Christian will answer with revenge, u answer with prayer because God will defend those who Love him "If you witness Me before men I also will witness for you to my father who is in heaven"
make friends with the saints, Pope Kirollos has EVERYBODYS back i gauruntee just ask him ;)
heres a miracle i heard before
there was a little boy who use to get harassed at school, he was Christian and the boys messing with him were muslim, they couldnt stand him and they told for some reason or other they were going to beat him up the next day at school if he showed up so he went home so upset and he prayed and asked Pope Kirollos to be with him, (i dont remember how) but he got the idea to take a Pope Kirollos book with him to school to confront the boys, so he went to where the boys who were gonna beat him up were waiting for him and he took the Pope Kirollos book with him and covered his head with the book and walked right through the crowd of boys, and nothing happened and he was like wow they didnt touch me they didnt even look at me, so he goes home so happy and thanks Pope Kirollos for being with him, although he didnt know why they didnt even awcknowledge his presence, so the next day he goes to school and the boys go to him and were like where were u, u were scared and he was like whatre u talking about i walked right past u guys and it was as if i wasnt even there and as soon as he said that he realized pope kirollos had made him invisible to the boys who wanted to beat him up and he went home and thanked God and Pope Kirollos for protecting him against people who were tormenting him
His likeness was: like bright lightning: and his outfit was: white as snow.
- Chris