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Mina, you're making me blush. Now can you make sure everyone reads the forums. I getting really tired of repeating the same thing over and over. I'm getting too old to this. It makes me feel like I've reached dementia at 35.
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With all the recent posts on bilingualism and cultural linguistics, I really have to wonder if anybody reads the forums. I repeat again: There is no right or wrong in linguistics. There is no wrong way to say Shenoute or Athanasius. It all depends o…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=11804.msg141051#msg141051 date=1310081825] Cyril (also Cyrillus or Cyryl) is a masculine given name. It is derived from the Greek name Κύριλλος (Kyrillos) meaning "Lordly, Masterful" which in turn derives from Greek κυ…
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[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11829.msg141252#msg141252 date=1310421600] This is a major peave of mine. Donation does not equal Purchase. If it is a purchase, then one should not be deducting from their taxes--because it wasn't a donatio…
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=11829.msg141192#msg141192 date=1310357177] 100% wrong. No debate. [/quote] Is it really 100% wrong? Fasting in the Orthodox Church is not about the type of foods you eat in a certain time period. It is about compl…
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Fr Peter, If you do an Armenian Language school, give us ample notice. I will do my best to come, if you can find me a place to stay. George
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Cephas, From what I remember about the discussion, the Synod changed the entry into the Synaxarium. And I don't think the Synaxarium is historically and theologically infallible, as we have seen in many cases.
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Antonious, If you come to Boston, I will look for you and give you the biggest welcome ever. We have plenty of converts in our church. And there is a catechesis curriculum for converts and people contemplating Coptic Orthodoxy. So you won't be lonel…
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[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=11784.msg140882#msg140882 date=1309819870] Let me give an example. The Blessed Virgin Mary is resurrected and is already in the glorified state and lives in the age to come.She is in heaven (not in paradise),the pla…
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..O Emitter of light that is emitted.. Agreed. Bad English. Another version says, "You who brings forth light". This is exactly what the Coptic says. ..bring us to a good start. This one I can't explain. The Coptic found on Remenkimi.com says, "Let …
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=10534.msg140864#msg140864 date=1309813561] [quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10534.msg140863#msg140863 date=1309813398] Quietly removed is English for murdered. I'm not sure why you are so resistant to this …
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10534.msg140863#msg140863 date=1309813398] Quietly removed is English for murdered. I'm not sure why you are so resistant to this fact of history? [/quote] What a strange idiom to describe murder! Would it not …
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=10534.msg140851#msg140851 date=1309809667] From Otto F.A. Meinardus' Two Thousand Years of Coptic Christianity: Throughout his pontificate, Cyril consolidated the Christian communities in Egypt, thus effecting some…
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[quote author=JG link=topic=10534.msg140829#msg140829 date=1309770607] There is mention of his poisoning and that the British authorities were ultimately behind his murder. [/quote] Isn't a little strange that the Coptic story of Pope Cyril IV's m…
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[quote author=JG link=topic=10534.msg140829#msg140829 date=1309770607] Pope Cyril IV is included in Fr. Tadros Malaty's Encyclopedia of the Fathers of the Church and her Saints (ض-م), pages 306-317. There is mention of his poisoning and that the Bri…
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Fr Peter, I've been trying to find any reference to the proposed union in 1861. I know you listed a reference to Greenwood's Account of a Visit to the Christian Churches in Cairo. But outside of this one reference, I could not find anything else on…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140731#msg140731 date=1309647447] I hope Reminkimi reads and understand that Copts have their own heritage that is different than the Byzantine.[/quote] Nothing in that article addressed oral transmission. …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140722#msg140722 date=1309642286] it is highly likely that these hymns were already found in Egypt before the 19th century because Egypt was a heavily Hellenistic culture that operated this way for thousand…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140694#msg140694 date=1309618591] I think we may need to have another thread of what constitute a dead language and keep this thread focused on the Greek hymns that recently crept into our Church and they s…
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Fr Peter, I think we're saying the same thing. "Bad" English is culturally defined. I agree with you that Copts don't like to ask for help in English. But in defense of the Copts, I'd like to point out 2 concerns. First, I don't think the issue is …
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=11736.msg140683#msg140683 date=1309596587] Dear Remenkimi, Well, disputing things on this forum at least for me is a way of forming relationships with others. It is not a lifeless board with members not giving respe…
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It's obvious that you are not listening to a thing I am saying. This is a waste of time. If you want to believe the Coptic Church is immune from bilingualism and everything that is not Coptic is bad and must be removed, go ahead. There's nothing I c…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=11364.msg137074#msg137074 date=1304327997] Lol! I prefer proper old English. What I can't stand is bad English. I wish people translating into English would get the help of those who are native English speakers,…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=11736.msg140654#msg140654 date=1309552213] Dear Cephas, According to scientists Coptic language is not a dead language. Oujai [/quote] Ophadecee, Cephas gave us a reference. I know people don't like Wikipedia as a …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140649#msg140649 date=1309548417] Hymns that are shared among all Churches: This type of hymns would be in our manuscripts, very old, and would be found in other Church's rites. There is no disagreement ab…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140646#msg140646 date=1309547666] Again you are confusing the issue of modern Greek hymns with removing anything that do not have references. Atai bartanos and abakran are Coptic hymns, thus do not fall int…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140640#msg140640 date=1309539613] Dear Reminkimi, I believe you are mixing things up. Comparing different rites, certain hymns are standard in all the Traditional Churches, albeit minor variations. These h…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140639#msg140639 date=1309539215] No it could not be possible. Because these hymns did not appear in any manuscripts prior to 1850. We don't have any manuscripts before 1950's for atiaparthenos or Apekran. …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11736.msg140624#msg140624 date=1309535636] To say OB is our heritage, without defining what OB is, or showing the different pronunciation patterns within OB, is unintelligible. We know what OB is. OB is the true au…
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The contention is these are modern hymns and not part of our heritage. If we need to come up with new hymns why not produce them ourselves in Coptic. Why do we go to other Churches and borrow their hymns. Do we lack the artistic skills? Now do you …