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There is no evidence that the Greek hymns were added during the days of Pope Cyril IV. This theory was projected by Ragheb Moftah and he does not give any corroborating evidence. Trust me, I looked for it. I want to add that Resurrection Dialogue (…
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There is no sufficient evidence that Greek hymns were added within the last two centuries. There is only a lack of evidence that these hymns existed before the last two centuries. You are also assuming that there was a Resurrection procession before…
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[quote author=AntoniousNikolas link=topic=10538.msg164808#msg164808 date=1369571108] Okay, so if I'm understanding you correctly, we agree that, as His Holiness and the Holy Synod have both declared, the Protestant stuff is definitely out of bounds.…
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Ray, First I want to apologize for misrepresenting your video. I thought I was clear when I said your video makes sense. I was not attacking your video on its content itself but its apparent generalization to make your point. I did not mean to say…
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I have been trying to understand what exactly is the problem here. It seems to me that this thread has become some sort of proverbial "Everything I don't like about the Coptic Church" relabelled as "Protestantism in the Coptic Church". This is the p…
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Oh. Ok. My understanding, as taught in Sunday School, was that every time the Copts said Kyrie eleson and did a metania, the mountain moved up (vertically) and came down in the same spot. The next time they said Kyrie eleson, it moved up again. And…
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=14432.msg164689#msg164689 date=1369096171] [quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=14432.msg164686#msg164686 date=1369088243] You must keep in mind that the miracle occurred in the 6th century. There was no concept …
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You must keep in mind that the miracle occurred in the 6th century. There was no concept of archeological evidence back then. Nor would you find archeological evidence that is reliable 15 centuries later. This comes down to faith. If you need scie…
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Irishpilgrim, The question was not "Was Eve subjected to Adam or not?" or "Should women be subjected to men or not?" The question was specific, concerning Eve's status at the creation before the fall, not after the fall. Your references of St John …
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[quote author=baempi link=topic=7582.msg164634#msg164634 date=1368816515] The 2nd part of your statement however is leaving out alot of evidence. Whereas Fr. Shenouda did base his thesis on manuscript evidence, which is widely available, this alone…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=7582.msg164623#msg164623 date=1368750470] Neither ophadece nor myself rejected the evidence. I simply stated that I could not read them and requested that you either post a link or an image of your post. The Arabic…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164613#msg164613 date=1368677990] Ekhrestos anesty dear remenkimi, some of the things you say now do really contradict what you said before, and sometimes you mention two contradictory statements in the same…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164604#msg164604 date=1368608319] Dear Remenkimi, Sorry to say this, but it appears to me now that you are clutching at straws. In the vigorous attempt to defend your changed position, you have started to qu…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164577#msg164577 date=1368539751] Dear Remenkimi, I am not sure where I came up with the idea of Greek loan words in this discussion! I cannot see anything I wrote relating to that. Also, please note that ar…
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No. It has nothing to do with logical thinking or a rational soul (the common liturgical language). What Adam received was life from God through breath (God's breath specifically). What Eve received was life from God through Adam's rib. Same thing r…
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Don't take my comments out of context. imikhail specifically said "what Aryan did as to apply the Greek sounds to the Coptic alphabet is what I call invention". Well what the Demotic Egyptians was apply Coptic sounds to the Greek alphabet. And I do…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=7582.msg164570#msg164570 date=1368491704] Again these rules are inventions because it does specify how to say each word depending on the origin of the word. This is not the case in any other language and certainly t…
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I will respond to your comments. But if you continue to attack me saying I am twisting words or any sort of ad hominem attacks, I will simply ignore your posts and the discussion will be over. Additionally, don't argue with the administrator about h…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=7582.msg164507#msg164507 date=1368117473] Somewhere in the history of Egypt (probably 6th-8th century, Arabic was Classical Arabic. Why is Modern Standard Arabic the only Arabic taught in schools? Why is it acceptab…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=7582.msg164537#msg164537 date=1368302927] There are no specific rules as Aryan invented. There are general ones and exception just like any other language. However, GB is not a language it is an invention and you ar…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164508#msg164508 date=1368117607] And as imikhail pointed out, whose authority is it to change a dialect? [/quote] If you believe a language is "natural" then the answer to your question is everyone. You, I,…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164508#msg164508 date=1368117607] No, t isn't always pronounced as /d/; sometimes /t/ too. Pretty much like 'c' in English. Note words like batoc, and ,rictoc.[/quote] According to Worrell, in his article P…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164500#msg164500 date=1368111360] Did I acknowledge an error? Then you misunderstood me. The former spells as e;ouab and is pronounced as /atwab/, while the latter spells as at;ouab and is prnounced as /a:tw…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164497#msg164497 date=1368108422] No no no... Aryan didn't correct the faults of OB by introducing GB as you claim Remenkimi. He made a mockery of OB, and wanted to change it for the sake of another language…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=7582.msg164479#msg164479 date=1368042224] In the feeble attempts to regain an attitude, or even only a way of pronunciation of my forefathers is much more worth the effort than keeping a flawed meaningless system of…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=7582.msg164485#msg164485 date=1368055618] Reminkimi, Aryan Moftah did use the argument that Copts should pronounce the Coptic letters as the Greek since the Coptic alphabet utilize the Greek one. Hence my post. Thi…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=14407.msg164461#msg164461 date=1368034624] [quote author=ophadece link=topic=14407.msg164456#msg164456 date=1368033129] I think it should be mentioned. Why not correct people's mistakes if one sees one? Isn't thi…
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I am not embarrassed at all at that link from 10 years ago. A person is allowed to modify his position on certain matters when he finds sufficient reason in a ten year period. I have changed my position that OB is more authentic than GB. Regarding …
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Aegyptoc, I think Ramez was trying to respond to Ophadecee's last comments which took your comments and extended it to a claim of language and Orthodoxy. Regardless of who said what, it is important we important we clarify our comments. I would lik…
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There are many issues being conflated here and there is a bit of misinformation. I'll try to summarize in no particular order. 1. Most of the people in the list of "linguists" you gave Ophadecee have died almost a hundred years ago. Modern linguist…