We're going back into semantics. Yes technically the diocesan bishops of US and Canada were general bishops before, this doesn't mean that diocesan bishops and general bishops should be seen as identical. These general bishops were elevated to dioce…
This is pathetic. We are trying to show Abouna Antony's sermons are ok because they are simple? And to give credibility to this datum, we use Rick Warren and Max Lucado? We are condoning using Protestant sources in Orthodox sermons? We are justifyin…
First of all, I have yet to see a Coptic translation of any theological work. If you know of any, please guide the way. The vast majority of Coptic works are liturgical and hagiographic. The majority of works are in Greek and secondarily in French, …
SharetheLord,It wasn't St Macarius. It was Apa Lot and his disciple Apa Abraam. I'll get you the exact apophthegmata. Plus, you are saying what I said about no lights and electricity (but I did with much more sarcasm)
Mabsoota, From what you are say…
Amoussa,I did read 1 Cor 14. I even referenced it in my previous post. No where does it say anything has to be done in a vernacular language. What it does say is that anyone who speaks in tongues, must have an interpreter so everyone who prays in th…
I am so glad Minasoliman is so knowledgable about these things, both historically and theologically. God bless your service Mina. I'm always learning something from you.
Amoussa01,I agree with you up to the point where you say the following things."Some of us even insist that they learn coptic in order to benefit from the responses!" I don't think anybody has insisted they learn Coptic to benefit from responses. We …
The more important question is do TV's contribute or engage the congregation to participate in the liturgy and bring people to God? Who cares if the TVs move or don't move, block the altar or block an icon? Isn't it better to block an altar or an ic…
My point was not that chandeliers are intrinsically wrong but that one can't complain of obstructing icons by screens and not complain chandeliers block icons. We are back to arguing preferences, rather than theology.
Your references reinforce my point.
Let me put it this way (and the way St John Chrysostom is putting it)If I have a full size mural of myself on my wall, does it depict the image of Christ or my external image? Possibly both, but at least my extern…
And by putting a screen in front of the ikons we would in effect be doing the same thing.Iconoclast=the destruction of icons. Esthetic icon obstruent=obstruction of icons
In what way can putting a screen in front of icons be considered destruction? …
No St Dioscorus did not excommunicate Eutyches. This was done by 2 councils in Ephesus in 448 AD by Flavian. He was exonerated by Dioscorus in Ephesus II in 449 AD. Chalcedon condemned him 451AD based exclusively on the 448 AD council by Flavian. It…
Do you really think this forum is officially run by the church? You have no concept of Orthodox forums. Do you really think everyone and everything you disagree with is medium of Satan because we closed a forum thread. If you take a look around at o…
Maybe the whole problem is that we don't understand iconography and icon theology. I find offensive that one would compare a Coptic Orthodox person (priest or laity) who pastorally wants the congregation to follow along in prayer with technology to …
Remnkemi also, isn't our theological basis Orthodox Theology?
I have no idea what you are asking me.
What do we mean when we say melismatic theology? One can potentially theologize how the notes are sequenced with the words and say this sym…
@IoannesHe didn't answer my question on the use of the phrase living and its connection to the Resurrection of the dead from December 2013, don't expect him to answer you on this question.
In his mind, it is not "only the Scriptures" that he his ba…
@ophadece
Firstly, talking about Mr. Moftah and Mr. Newlandsmith, now you can see for yourself the unassuming effects of choosing a cantor who doesn't speak like the majority others, because of the presumed hypothesis that other speak Coptic …
Cyril, thanks for the comments and references.
I think you're correct in bringing up the issue of identity. What can be alarming is attributing our identity to nationalism or cultural triumphalism or ethnocentrism.
We already have evidence th…
Truthseeker,
Based on references from Mt 22:32, I asked a question from Scripture that you did not answer in my December 2013 response. I gave you an explanation that our faith in intercessions is directly related to the Resurrection and you …
Welcome Ousia,
Your brief story is beautiful. One thing I would comment. The Coptic Church's renaissance did not come in the 1960's. Renaissance came and comes daily in Tradition and theology, in liturgy and praxis. And while you're praying to be wo…
I am interested but I can't promise anything within 2 weeks since I have a conference to prepare for at UCLA in 2 weeks. If you can extend your timeline, send me a private message.
Lastly related to adopting aspects of other Orthodox Churches, I wonder what would happen if we embraced the role of cantors (not just call everyone who's a singer a "deacon") and also had mixed choirs with women singers, like how the Syrians, India…
Third consideration, the adoption of Orthodox hymns from other Orthodox Churches. Adopting hymnographic traditions has happened before and it's happening now (maybe nowadays we borrow more from non-Orthodox sources though). Could we not draw on the…
This last point leads to what we consider beauty or "bad" hymnography. The only way a musical composition (and the whole musical tradition or hymnography) can be claimed as bad is if it is seen through a foreign paradigm. When Villateaux, under the …
Hi Everyone, what are your thoughts about a complete re-haul or reassessment of what we define as Coptic Hymnology?
Since you asked...It is the worst thing that could possibly happen to any hymnological tradition, much less to the Coptic hymnologic…
That assumes we will get all the manuscripts out of Egypt. If that happens, the Egyptian government (I believe) has the authority to claim anything that is over 100 years old as their own property. Of course, I doubt Google wants to send their $500,…
Yes, but diyscanners (both the machine and the people scanning them) is not the way to seriously tackle a serious digitization project. It needs professionals and it needs resources at the university level with people who do this all the time. You w…
I have a diyscanner. It's not as easy as it looks. The problem is not necessarily scanning. The problem is disseminating.
As it stands now, there is some politics involved concerning who has access to manuscripts and what are they going to do with …
Ramez,
I don't see how elthwn is correct for "came" but you're the expert so I defer to you. Can you please explain elthwn grammatically? Was the intended word ἀνελθών? Theologically and liturgically, everything you said makes sense.
I apologize if …
Peniot, I know. We don't need to have the same conclusion. But it is spiritually beneficial (at least for myself) to hear and read your views and posts.