The work of God in saints to bring unity between them and the animals is a kind of a prophecy about the unity which will exist between not just the saints and creation but all of us once God's salvation has fully come and He is totally present amon…
[quote author=LoveisDivine link=topic=12546.msg147333#msg147333 date=1320956921]
I'm pretty sure its part of patristic tradition, the whole world fell with us not just humans so the fall has significance for the whole creation. Our first job was t…
This supposedly prayer on animals is getting out of hand.
There is no liturgical prayers for animals whatsoever except the we pray in the seven short litanies .. when we ask the Lord to save the cattle as a source of food.
[quote author=christ_rose link=topic=12546.msg147197#msg147197 date=1320790611]
what im saying is that there is a Coptic Orthodox Prayer for dead animals. A hegumen just told me that about a month ago
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Which prayer is that?
[quote author=returnorthodoxy link=topic=12526.msg147145#msg147145 date=1320630630]
Hey imikhail,
I don't know if you understood me right. I'm saying that before the epiclesis, the priest signs the offerings himself with a cross (thanksgiving praye…
This is not correct. The entire liturgy builds up to the transformation of the offerings which become the Body and Blood of Christ after the Epiclesis. This is apparent in the actions of the priest. Before the Epiclesis, when the priest says 'Irini …
And since you're making the claim, back it up. Find this 'Arabic/Coptic' Didascalia and post what it says.
Just for you dear Kephas:
http://postimage.org/image/yxovh5d7h/
[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12513.msg147134#msg147134 date=1320617504]
+ Irini nem ehmot,
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12513.msg147099#msg147099 date=1320421923]
I looked up chapter 18 of the Didascalia Apostolorum, and it says nothing abo…
If there is no repentance then confession is useless. One needs to change direction to avoid the habitual sin so that forgiveness can be granted.
I encourage you to ask your FOC to give you spiritual exercises to overcome your particular sin.
Zoksasi,
I agree completely with you .
Bishops were chosen through the Holy Spirit to lead the Church. If the congregation do not submit and obey then the congregation is in direct conflict with God Himself.
[quote author=returnorthodoxy link=topic=12526.msg147100#msg147100 date=1320421955]
imikhail,
While you are probably right, can you please then identify why the attitude towards the gifts changes at a certain point if they are always the body. If …
The fact that St. Clement illustrates that there were those who believed Christ's birth to be in the spring clearly indicates that the date of the Feast was not fixed in his time (the 3rd Century).
Please read the points I mentioned above specific…
First off, the work 'De Pascha Computus' was not written by Hippolytus. My search has indicated that it was an anonymous work and if it is attributed to anyone, it is to Cyprian.
Hippolytos did try to fix the Pascha celebration and one school beli…
The Oriental Churches do not believe, as other Churches do, that the change of the bead and wine into the body and the blood of our Lord during a certain period in the liturgy.
The whole liturgy is an actual living of the events our Lord went throu…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12513.msg147090#msg147090 date=1320387837]
Well I know those dates are when the feasts are celebrated. I was hoping imikhail was going to point to some references to show how those dates were determined.
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Bef…
The hymn of "Greet one another .... offer" changed its place after around the 11th century when the Church in Egypt had no Catechumens.
The offering of the lamb used to be prayed after the liturgy of the word not before it as is done today. The…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12513.msg146881#msg146881 date=1320085065]
BTW, I am not saying that the Church is creating feasts to combat secular celebrations. I am saying that these feasts exist: It is a fact that Christ was born. When it happen…
St Basil liturgy is the same as St Cyril's in the sense that the prayer s directed to the Father. Hence, we use only "have mercy upon o God the father the Pandocrator"
There is a reason why we drink water right after communion and that is to make sure there are no "jewels" left in the mouth and everything is consumed.
For extra caution, we do not brush our teeth or spit for fear the "jewels" are still in the mout…
You need to teach Coptic as a language that could be used on a daily basis.
The problem with most Coptic teaching is that the only hurdle in Coptic is to make other able to read without understanding what they are reading.
I would teach Coptic li…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12498.msg146714#msg146714 date=1319673555]
I checked out the link you provided. . .you really believe those posters represent how a ty…
These rules have their place. They are meant for young children who do not know any better. But because they are so abused and they make people forget what the true image of the merciful Trinity is, we should grow up and "put away such childish thin…
Nothing said in these podcasts will change the church's view that unrepentant homosexuality is a sin. Maybe I seem like a fool speaking about the topic not even raised, but I have a feeling this will come up, so I'm just cautioning everyone.
I know…
Islam is of Satan.
Any other religion beside Christianity is of Satan
Any other way than to Christ is heading towards the bosom of Satan.
One should make the decision to either follow the path to Christ or that of Satan.
The holy synod decreed the next three days to fasting and prayer for all Copts around the world starting tomorrow.
http://www.copts-united.com/Arabic2011/Article.php?I=952&A=45101