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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157863#msg157863 date=1342712564] As I said, I will not argue with you, but you are gravely mistaken. [/quote] Ok .. we will wait for your paper. I pray that we do not take these discussions personall…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157860#msg157860 date=1342707870] Your main argument, and these other points are side matters, is that the Eastern Orthodox do not have the Orthodox Faith and should be baptised. This is the main issue…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157855#msg157855 date=1342706744] I am not going to argue with you. I will finish my paper and allow it to argue for me. I will say that I believe you to be in error. [/quote] Please, do not reduce …
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157853#msg157853 date=1342705177] It is impossible to deny that those who did not hold Trinitarian heresies were never baptised. They were received as being already baptised. If you insist on rejecting…
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[quote author=Severian link=topic=13480.msg157843#msg157843 date=1342690735] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157842#msg157842 date=1342688897] This 7th canon is a forgery and is not accepted by the Church. Only six out of the seven canons…
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This 7th canon is a forgery and is not accepted by the Church. Only six out of the seven canons are accepted.
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So we shouldn't think of the black robe the priests wear today as something essential to Orthodoxy. It's a late development ... The tradition of wearing black goes back to at least the fifth century and most likely earlier.
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The water offering is mentioned in the Old Testament in Genesis (offered by Jacob), and in first Samuel (offered by David) At the end of the liturgy, we do pray a thanksgiving prayer, when Abouna pours the water on his hand) and then the prayer of…
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The baptism of the heretics, including the Arians and Nestorians, were never accepted in the church. Those who were originally Orthodox and strayed away were not rebaptized for the baptism is performed only one time. EO saints are not saints within…
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13529.msg157743#msg157743 date=1342447867] Thank you Joshuaa for the information, but what is the significance of water? [/quote] The water is an offering (aka pour offering) that has been offered along with …
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13535.msg157804#msg157804 date=1342587485] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13535.msg157803#msg157803 date=1342578859] Proudly, a chalcedonian Monophysite ReturnOrthodoxy [/quote] huh?! [/quote] I had …
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The EO and the OO are two different Churches with different faiths. The EO rejects the OO position on Christology since 451 AD. They do not consider us to have the same faith as theirs. We, on the other hand, do not recognize Chalcedon and the cou…
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Humbleness and discipleship is the essence of our Church. I am glad that the majority of the clergy are disciples of the fathers who gave up their early lives to preserve the faith. The Greeks are the ones who chose not to accept our position just…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13480.msg157769#msg157769 date=1342496764] imikhail I really respect a great deal of your posts and you have personally added much to me in the time i have been on tasbeha.org. (this is also directed to some…
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Those who say we have the same faith are mistaken. The EO do not consider us to have the same faith, so I wonder how can some of our clergy say that we do. I liken this attitude with a sinner whom we tell you are not a sinner and you are in communi…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157734#msg157734 date=1342422459] The Agreed Statement clearly and explicitly states that we believe the EO to have the same faith as us. It was the intention of all of our Synods to make this statemen…
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Ian not sure that the point of different faith is getting across. The EO has different faith than the OO and thus their sacraments are rejected by the OO.
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[quote author=fortunatus link=topic=13480.msg157625#msg157625 date=1342151794] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157624#msg157624 date=1342150871] If we are in true communion withe the EO as some claim, then no one would need the permission…
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If we are in true communion withe the EO as some claim, then no one would need the permission of his FOC to take communion there. We are different Curches with different faiths. They have anathemas against us. If clergy take it upon themselves to …
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The EO have rejected communion with the Oriental as a result of the debates that went during the 90's. We signed the agreement, but when the Ecumenical Patriarch took it to the monke of Athos, they rejected the agreement and affirmed our heretic sta…
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How can we accept their sacraments and say we are not in communion? By definition to be in communion is to accept the other side's faith. If I do not accept his faith, then how can I accept the sacraments that are built on a faith I reject? Btw wha…
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We are not in communion with the EO. They still consider us heretics which means we do not have the same faith. The monks of Mount Athos, who control any lift of the anathemas, firmly believe of the two natures as expressed in Chalcedon and after.…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13480.msg157456#msg157456 date=1341735233] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157441#msg157441 date=1341713641] for purpose of sacraments, especially marriage, one has to belong to the Coptic Church. F…
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for purpose of sacraments, especially marriage, one has to belong to the Coptic Church. Fr. Peter is speaking from a faith point of view. However, when it comes to marriage specifically a Greek Orthodox must belong to the Coptic Church. This has n…
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There is no communion between the Greek Orthodox and the Coptic Orthodox. The person needs to officially become part of the Coptic Church to receive the sacraments.
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The account in Genesis 12 is different than the one in Genesis 20. The former was Pharoah king of Egypt, the latter was Abimelech king of Gerar.
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The custom of making an oath or a covenant was to cut an animal in half and burn them. So, God used the existing customs to communicate His covenant with Abraham.
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God intended to save Lot as He sent the angels to Sodom while He remained talking with Abraham. The debate was about saving the city from destruction for the sake of the righteous who lived there, namely Lot and his family. Unfortunately, there wer…