[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=69.msg158297#msg158297 date=1343680901]
Fr Tadros source on the Assumption of the Virgin Mary is based on the sermon of Pope Theodosius. This Pope's sermon is forged ,according to you. Abouna has not gone into det…
[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=69.msg158294#msg158294 date=1343679132]
Imikahail, I hope you find the following sermon edifying and enlightening:
The Feast of the Assumption
When you get the time, please go back and answer my questions..provid…
As of now you have convinced many of us of nothing. And will not convince because your arguments have no foundation.
For you there is no difference between an Arian and an Orthodox since you accept Constantine, an Arian as a saint.
I am glad th…
I would like to let you know imikhail that your argument is unbelievable and that your care for such a trivial subject is outrageous and quite frankly pointless
If it is so, then why did you spend the effort to write your note?
[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=69.msg158287#msg158287 date=1343677735]
Lol...answering my questions by questioning me...
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I do not know how is it a question, or why is it funny to ask for your help in citing specific quotes.
Imikhail , …
[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=13549.msg158281#msg158281 date=1343672872]
In the COC, Emperor Constantine is a Saint, period!
1) Why is Emperor Constantine canonized as a Saint (at least in the Eastern Orthodox Church)? The most cursory glance …
Dear Izekiel,
So we do not go into circles as you suggested. Let's take one point at a time.
In this post I want only, if you would allow me, to discuss Fr. Tadros commentary on the matter.
I know that you have provided the link to his book "St. …
As you know there were many forged documents that had big names attached to them to give them attention. Examples are the forged gospels that bore names like Peter, Barnabas, ... etc
This mame of Tawodosios is one of those. Not every writing that h…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158270#msg158270 date=1343627932]
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Let me help you then:
Fourth Canticle:
Esmo erof nifiowi ente nifiowi; nem nikemo-ou …
[quote author=fortunatus link=topic=69.msg158271#msg158271 date=1343628827]
+Irini nem ehmot
Dear imikhail,
It is very clear from your response and from your ignoring almost every questions that I had both in this post and in the last, that you h…
[quote author=fortunatus link=topic=69.msg158265#msg158265 date=1343625930]
+Irini nem ehmot
I hope you don't think I'm picking on you! lol
I'm comparing the two, as per your request, but I am not sure what you're trying to show. I don't see how y…
My comments are in Red
[quote author=fortunatus link=topic=69.msg158263#msg158263 date=1343625261]
+Irini nem ehmot
Dear imikhail,
Traditions" however, are different. You cannot choose to reject the "Tradition" of the Trinity, for example, and co…
[quote author=markmarcos link=topic=13581.msg158262#msg158262 date=1343624437]
Why are the orthodox churches not all in communion? Like the EO & OO??
What happened over the course of history? Anba Yousef came to our church and told us that the …
[quote author=qawe link=topic=69.msg158255#msg158255 date=1343616605]
“The adornment of Mary in the highest heaven, at the right hand of her beloved, asking Him on our behalf” (Coptic: Ere psolsel em Mariam Khen nifiowi etsa epchoi)
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The whole thing is based on this Mamre. This is an alleged sermon by Pope Tawodosius that contains many theological errors.
The Church never recognized it as authentic.
[quote author=metouro link=topic=69.msg158245#msg158245 date=1343594617]
This leads into a question about our prayers for the departed. We say in the Liturgy, "repose their souls in the paradise of joy, in the heavenly Jerusalem... in that place." …
[quote author=fortunatus link=topic=69.msg158233#msg158233 date=1343537602]
+Irini nem ehmot
Dear imikhail,
Traditions" however, are different. You cannot choose to reject the "Tradition" of the Trinity, for example, and count yourself Orthodox. T…
[quote author=Severian link=topic=69.msg158230#msg158230 date=1343530854]
Forgive me, I misunderstood your position, not necessarily the Church's, IMHO. Thank you for the clarification and forgive me for misunderstanding you.
But what makes you say…
[quote author=Severian link=topic=69.msg158227#msg158227 date=1343528823]
^Do you have proof of the assertion that this speech is forged? And what say you of the extensive Patristic quotations provided which seem to point to the Dormition of the The…
[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=69.msg158217#msg158217 date=1343505310]
Imikahil, I STRONGLY disagree with your position, but nevertheless thank you for clarifying your position.
It is not just Fr Athanasius, but Fr Tadros has said the same thing…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158184#msg158184 date=1343437745]
No, this is not a trick question and I am glad that you answered a big NO.
But how can we interpre…
[quote author=qawe link=topic=69.msg158203#msg158203 date=1343457529]
It is not a sermon, but a book.
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I meant the sermon or the Mamre that has Pope Tawodosius on it.
[quote author=qawe link=topic=69.msg158201#msg158201 date=1343452634]
Imikhail
It is not your job to determine what our Church believes, it is the Holy Synod's.
They have not made a statement on this as yet.
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With all due respect, the tea…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158190#msg158190 date=1343443931]
I know that the link is there, but will you please put the quotes here from the fathers you are referring t…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158184#msg158184 date=1343437745]
So, when you read about St Mary's body taken to heaven, it refers to Paradise not the Kingdom of heaven
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[quote author=Ηεζεκιελ link=topic=69.msg158178#msg158178 date=1343431357]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158177#msg158177 date=1343430897]
With all due respect, this is not the dogma of our Church.
Before, you stir an uproar, I want to ask…
With all due respect, this is not the dogma of our Church.
Before you stir an uproar, I want to ask this question.
Is Elijah in heaven, that is the kingdom of heaven?