Where did you get that all of Genesis is allegorical?
Death which entered into our world by the envy of the devil.
Because you said:
"Adam and Eve were the first creatures to become *real* human beings, not merely homo sapiens (if evolution is to …
"In the Hebrew language Adam signifies 'human being,' and...in those parts of the narrative which appear to refer to Adam as an individual, Moses is discoursing upon the nature of humanity in general." - Origen (Against Celsus 4.40)
So all of Genesi…
Zoxsasi and Beekay,Adam and Eve were the first human beings in the fullest sense possible. How is this irreconcilable with evolution? They were the first humans to have God's Image and Likeness imprinted in them.
Hi Katanikhoros,
So what you are sa…
Zoxsasi,
If you have time, I highly recommend Dr. Jeannie Constantinou's "Search the Scripture" podcast. She goes in depth (I think about 5 lectures) talking about creation in Genesis and what the fathers of our church say, esp Chrysostom. You'll f…
Mina,
No. I don't get it.
I was at a point where I could have believed that we can reconcile our faith with contemporary scientific theories on evolution; but after discussing with my parents, this seems impossible.
Also, if Genesis was to be taken…
Everyone has different learning abilities and capacities.
If God has given you a talent in explaining, that's great. If he's given you a talent in singing, that's great. If He's given you a talent in preaching: that's awesome.
But its best, genera…
I dont understand why the need to transfer? The fact that we use the term "transfer" implies that he's changing churches and we're not One Church with the British Orthodox Church.
The only way for this to make any sense is if Fr Peter's congregation…
If any other person who read 5+ pages is able to see and understand my posts which already addressed and refuted your concerns, I think it would be a waste to continue this discussion with you publicly Zoxsasi. This is with all due respect. If man…
I'm not sure which parish/city you're from TITL, but that's certainly not the case for the parish I'm from.
In fact, it appears as though it is just the opposite... those individuals that were raised by the church were the ones who had their foot ou…
finally:
c) More importantly, if Christ died on the cross to "pay the price" of this "original sin," why don't we live eternally physically now?
The answer to this question would be in my answer b) above:
we inherited a corrupt nature that is prone…
Thank you for the welcome, Zoxsasi. I'm just a bored Coptic guy cruising the web.
First off, allow me to apologize if I made it seem that this is not a difficult problem - this is likely the most difficult issue a free-thinking Copt will need to ove…
Maybe this has a lot to do with evolution, and the aggressive atheism being spread in western societies - especially in the scientific/academic fields.
Remnkemi and TITL, I humbly disagree.
Great point - St. John Chrysostom, along with the likes of St. Basil and St. Gregory the Theologian posit the thought that Genesis should be read literally. But of course, when it comes to arguing with patrist…
Well all this brings us right back to square one:
Adam and Eve, if the Church says they truly existed and the story in Genesis isn't allegorical, it means that we cannot accept evolutionary theories that purpose that man evolved from lower primates …
Mina,
Hi Beekay,
Thanks for your response.
Is evolution a fact? Did we, as humans, evolve from apes?? Yes or no?
Is five pages of comments not good enough for you to answer that question?!
LOL!!!
Ya Zoxsasi, ya Habib el Maseeh, if I had diffi…
Mina,
I had a chat with my parents at the possibilty that God created us via an evolutionary process through the ape species.
It didnt go down well. They said it was impossible as God created us in HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS - not that of an Ape.
They …
Hey Qawe,
The idea is the same: God created us to physically die. Apparently, we only died spiritually (eternally). We were always destined, no matter what, for WHATEVER reason, created to die physically.
I've explained that earlier that yes, it is in part a way of mercy, as some of the Church fathers said. Did I say something different?
I'm not sure we had cleared up this issue.
I think I misunderstood you, Mina.
I told you that my priest said th…
Having watched these videos, Dr Hany states clearly that dying was part of God's economy of mercy for us so we don't consistently live in this sinful corrupt world. Would you agree to that??
Hello,
I wanted to share these videos by Dr. Hany Mikhail Mina who is a Coptic Orthodox Christian and a Medical Dr.
He's obviously seen the issues and dilemmas of this topic and made 12 video responses.
I've just started to go through the videos my…
Guys, my point was merely that those running the Alpha Course happen to be proponents of Charismatic irrational behaviour, It doesn't mean that the Alpha Course is wrong or bad in anyway.
All I'm saying is that the proponents of this course, those …
I don't find Quranic Arabic particularly beautiful. The reason is its full of gibberish. I mean no offence by saying this, but it is so non sensical. Its like the ramblings of someone who needs a good night's sleep.
Arabic is generally a beautiful l…
I really agree with Quiet Time. You need time to read the Bible, Qawe. How in anyway is this unorthodox??
You don't even need to go to Church to read the Bible and have your own Quiet Time. You can just DIY in your own home.
Look my dear fellow:
T…
What's a "mission" Church?
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Call this Church whatever you like, but I know that Christ is in their midst. Not all Churches in Canada & especially Montreal, are the same.
God ble…
"Sexual relations between married couples should not take place either on the eve of Communion, as well as on the day of receiving the sacrament."
Excuse me?? What if one spouse had holy communion and the other didn't have Holy Communion. What optio…