I'm reposting this @minatasgeel, as I believe you have fallen gravely into error.
"EDIT: I find this part of your post particularly troubling - "First, before anything, I must say that the Coptic Orthodox Church Synod has the right to change any...…
I'm reposting this @minatasgeel, as I believe you have fallen gravely into error.
"EDIT: I find this part of your post particularly troubling - "First, before anything, I must say that the Coptic Orthodox Church Synod has the right to change any...…
@qawe,
I'm sorry I don't understand why you used the present perfect and past tenses talking about the nativity liturgy. It's happening in the future.. or because some people may read this after a while?
oujai khan ebshois
You're right it's happenin…
I'm reposting this @minatasgeel, as I believe you have fallen gravely into error.
"EDIT: I find this part of your post particularly troubling - "First, before anything, I must say that the Coptic Orthodox Church Synod has the right to change any...…
Eventually the people raised in these environments are going to want to go all the way and cut off all ties to anything Coptic.
What's wrong with that?
singing... (sometimes Protestant) songs instead of... hymns
I agree with you on this.
Indeed, I…
But is Liturgy a primary or secondary source of theology for us? If we're suggesting that liturgy is also Holy Tradition shouldn't it also be given same weight as Holy Scripture, the Fathers, the witness of the Saints (martyrdom and acts of mercy), …
What is everyone's thoughts on the authority of the Liturgy and the theological implication of what we pray? For example the bit about prayers for those in hades that were in the Pentecost kneeling prayers.
IMO, the liturgy should not contradict the…
@minatasgeel
"we consider the Synod as a whole, infallible."
Wrong. The Church is infallible, not the Synod.
EDIT: I find this part of your post particularly troubling - "First, before anything, I must say that the Coptic Orthodox Church Synod has…
@ophadece
"Why change the readings on a prophet's departure day?"
Actually, the new readings are much more suitable to the departure of King David.
"Because His word in this particular reading is too tough for the occasion?"
Don't you think it is…
Why aren't the apostolic constitutions (Didascalia Apostolorum) given the same level of dignity and worship as the bible?
Why should they be? The Church has always reserved a special dignity for the Holy Scriptures within Her Tradition. That is not…
Can anyone show me such a list? Liturgical and Extra-Liturgical.
Everything is liturgical in the Orthodox Church. Nothing is 'extra-liturgical'. That's why it's so important not to use 'it's not inside the liturgy' as an excuse to make compromises w…
So why do we still die a physical death now after Christ came and saved us?
I wrote a response to this but it seems to have been lost.
Christ conquered death BY DEATH. Thus the solution to death involves going through death, just as Christ did. …
@Zoxasi
Sorry I'm not free to discuss this on Paltalk. Hopefully others are.
In terms of reconciling evolution with Orthodoxy, it's not a field I'm very well-versed in anyway.
"Why do we all suffer the penalty/consequences of Adam's sin if his si…
@Zoxasi
You are gravely mistaken.
Physical death is a result of Adam/Eve's sin. Before this, humans were immortal, NOT BY NATURE BUT BY VIRTUE OF COMMUNION WITH THE IMMORTAL GOD. In that sense, humans are impermanent as at some point they came i…
Nicene or post nicene fathers. St Athanasios is fine.
Lol you missed the joke, if you wanted just any Father, then saying 'Post-Nicene or Ante-Nicene fathers' was redundant.
Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread with my lame attempts at humour.
I agree with most of the things everyone has said. They are all great ideas. But the youth who do not want to participate and come just for socialization have become experts at finding a reason not to go to the meetings, especially tasbeha. At might…
I don't really understand the question?
But if it is what I think you mean, then yes. This too is a personal prayer. This bread is His Holy Body. We are members of His Holy Body. Therefore, the bread He makes into His Holy Body is us. If I fail to …
hmm,i thought it was fun because it is great that Jesus was incarnate of saint mary.also the people are really paying attention to the words.
ok, we don't need to start boogying like it's a night club, we are worshiping God, not entertaining ourselv…
You've all brought up really good points, it just really saddens me when I see very few of the youth willing to attend the praise or enjoy it. A large number of them have told me they hate Coptic, and don't enjoy Coptic hymns.
How do we address thi…
Has the service of the Midnight Praise during the month of Kiahk gone too far in praising St. Mary? It seems that focus at times almost completely shifts away from the mystery of the Incarnation and our role in it and focus purely on the glory of th…
this, for example is fun:
words in english here:http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/index.php?a=view&id=2283
The aspects of it that make it 'fun' (eg the bobbing of heads to a very tangible beat) are anti-ascetical. Ideally, this is not the way I…
Since you will be in Japan, the closest bishop accessible by internet is Bishop Sourial of Melbourne Australia.
Not correct. The closest bishop is Bishop Daniel of Sydney Australia. Actually, I believe Japan is officially under HG's jurisdiction.
Every prayer in the Coptic Church is a personal prayer if you personally pray it, even the communal ones.
Including "This bread He makes into His Holy Body"?
We don't really need to know the specific providence where an Arabic Protestant song originated and entered the Coptic church.
I was under the impression that pseudo-Protestant songs were written by Orthodox Christians. I didn't think they used so…
I don't know the answer to your question, but I feel HG's response, while a good and measured response, is probably something everyone in the spectrum of this debate might agree with, and so I don't find his answer "satisfying".
Agreed Mina. Tbh I …