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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg149047#msg149047 date=1323891834] it was like 4 yrs ago....a little long realy. so as i rmemeber we said: niethnos terro, 4th hoos with ef-eranaf and alli-el'asr, the 2 psalies (not the madeha), all the …
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg149047#msg149047 date=1323891834] that is interesting. I don't think you need that much time. last time i did a full tasbeha like this (without the great tarh--we said the short one instead), we took ar…
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Last Saturday, we started Kiahk Vespers Praise at 10.30am. We finished at 5.30pm. We said everything that could be said: all the melismatic hymns, all of the psalis, all of the madayeh. We then took a 30 min break and started Midnight Praise. We by…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12647.msg148936#msg148936 date=1323727193] Do most churches pray all 7 theotokias on Saturday? I believe mine only prays the Sunday Theotokia. . . [/quote] This Kiahk, we chanted the Monday and Tuesday Theotokias las…
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[quote author=Faithfull Servant 1 link=topic=12647.msg148873#msg148873 date=1323661806] So are all the Theotokias chanted on 7 and 4?? cause thats where it gets its name... 7 theotokias and 4 odes [/quote] Yes, on Sunday, all of the theotokias a…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg148790#msg148790 date=1323385734] Anything from the Gospel to the last hymn after avmoti ero. [/quote] Which is loads and loads.
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg148785#msg148785 date=1323381155] [quote author=JG link=topic=12647.msg148784#msg148784 date=1323380980] Scratch that, I was completely wrong. Forgive me, Mina is right, you would say "Shere ne maria" a…
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Scratch that, I was completely wrong. Forgive me, Mina is right, you would say "Shere ne maria" after the 1st Hoos on any day besides a Sunday evening.
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg148781#msg148781 date=1323380117] [quote author=JG link=topic=12647.msg148777#msg148777 date=1323379401] There is no mention of that in the Kiahk Psalmody I'm using from the Sourian Monastery. The most…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12647.msg148779#msg148779 date=1323380014] [quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12647.msg148774#msg148774 date=1323377727] On all non-sunday days, you still go to Shere ne Maria after First Hoos right? [/quote] …
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Went and checked with a Moallem. Yes, the order I just mentioned is correct. But apparently, this is a newer arrangement that is different from the original. We're doing the Kiahk praises on Saturday, so I'll get the whole picture and post then.
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There is no mention of that in the Kiahk Psalmody I'm using from the Sourian Monastery. The most significant differences from the annual seems to be when the psalis and theotokias for the different days are chanted. The Monday and Tuesday Theotoki…
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[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12647.msg148774#msg148774 date=1323377727] On all non-sunday days, you still go to Shere ne Maria after First Hoos right? [/quote] Doesn't look like it.
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Surely you don't have to move to a different country to find Coptic girls? Why not just visit other churches in the area (I'm assuming there is more than one church in your country, if not forgive me)?
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12659.msg148709#msg148709 date=1323304240] No Mina, only the second half is for the Annunciation. Apparantly, hybrid made-up responses are the in-thing to do these days. JG, be careful. TITL is the "Guardian of Cr…
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The issue you're bringing up about deacons who sing individually is besides the point. Yes, it's a problem, and it needs addressing, but it is irrelevant here. The problem here is the addition of this refrain to the hymn, without any valid basis. S…
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=12659.msg148694#msg148694 date=1323296281] Btw, I don't think skipping a hymn is an alternative.[/quote] Neither do I. I meant for the Psalm 150 to be chanted properly, and then for people to join in on a later hymn f…
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=12659.msg148694#msg148694 date=1323296281] It's not that people don't want to learn the long tune (well, that's part of it), but usually it's 1-4 deacons who sing it INDIVIDUALLY in their own style, and you can't sing a…
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[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12659.msg148693#msg148693 date=1323296077] No need to say it in English with this ridiculous refrain. What are you even saying? How is it ridiculous? Jesus Christ is the begotten of the Father and was incarnate …
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Whether it is grammatically correct or not is a moot point IMO. It's an unnecessary addition. It never existed in Coptic - and like so many hymns, people just translate from the Arabic with all of it's fabrications. EDIT: [quote author=Remnkemi l…
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[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12659.msg148685#msg148685 date=1323294606] [quote author=JG link=topic=12659.msg148665#msg148665 date=1323289471] Listen to the Coptic version. There is no refrain. Why should it exist in English or Arabic? [/q…
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Listen to the Coptic version. There is no refrain. Why should it exist in English or Arabic?
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Order of Kiahk Midnight Praises 1) Ten;ynou - "Arise you children of the light." The first verse may be chanted in the great tune, or in the minor, the same as the continuation. 2) The Great Alleluia, (9th from top) known as "Al Nos El Leel" ("Mid…
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Do you want the Kiahk Vespers praise or the Midnight praise?
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[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=12596.msg148297#msg148297 date=1322782488] Rem, That is exactly what I meant. Stavro, Those funny little parties are part of the deal to give a semblance of "democracy". If you read back your stated chrono…
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Think of it, you can either confess your sins now, in front of only your FOC and feel peace afterwards, or you will have your whole life's worth of sins revealed before every human being that has existed, exists and will exist. One is a lot less …
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Please pray for me, I have an exam tomorrow, and on Wednesday and a big one Friday after next, that God gives me the wisdom I do not deserve, and does not punish me severely for the time I have not used wisely.
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Whenever you think a bad thought, or feel that you are on the verge of sinning, stop whatever you are doing and pray. It doesn't have to be out loud - just close your eyes for a moment and pray within your heart for God to strengthen you, and he wil…
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Maybe you've just forgotten how precious you are. It happens to us all from time to time. Just ask yourself why you're not happy. Honestly, if you go through the facts you'll realise that not only do you not have any reason to be unhappy, you sho…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12560.msg147454#msg147454 date=1321220800] [quote author=JG link=topic=12560.msg147453#msg147453 date=1321220020] I was taught that this is the correct tune to chant the Conclusion to the Adam Theotokias. The Morning…