Greetings one and all.
Could i ask, if im a married, ordained Old Catholic priest in communion with the orthodox church, can i seek to be a monk within the Coptic church? Im already connected in part to a Coptic church, but if the answer is yes, then could someone explain to me what would be required please?
Due to the pandemic that is over the world right now, finding it hard to actually speak and discuss any of this.
Every blessing
Revd Ricci
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3. It is also not clear how you can be connected to part of the Coptic Orthodox Church if you are an Old Catholic.
Perhaps if you can add some detail to your post, and which group you belong to, this might become clearer. But it is the case that there are many groups which claim to be connected to Orthodoxy, but Orthodoxy does not consider them connected to her.
As a convert from Catholicism, the Coptic church does not have formalities like the Catholic church. I have a formal education in Coptic Theology, but unlike the Catholic church, it does not equate to me automatically being ordained a Priest.
I love how you feel such a wonderful connection to our church, but you would have to first focus on converting.
Both churches, as they have many similarities, are rather different in theology. Having credentials in one, doesn't necessarily make someone more qualified, as Coptic churches look more at the person than education.
Just as Bishoy pointed out, Latin and Byzantine Catholicism are not in communion with Byzantine or Oriental Orthodoxy. Oriental Orthodoxy and Byzantine Orthodoxy are also separated and may only commune in each other's churches in extreme circumstances.
It was a back-handed comment. I am aware a married man cannot become a monk, but didn't want to come off like a total, "You know what" when I saw him write that. The Old Catholic church is...unique...to say the least.
We have one in Ohio not too far from the Dair. They believe because they separated from Catholicism in the 19th century they're, "Orthodox" somehow when they still use a Latin Mass. It's like Western Rite Orthodoxy prevalent in the Antiochian church in the U.S. with mission churches. See, now you see why I tried to be...kind of polite.
http://www.oldcatholicchurchuk.co.uk/433636157
There was a brief point when one group was in communion, but none of the groups claiming that name are in communion with Orthodoxy.
The Old Catholic movement in Utrecht was a schism from Roman Catholicism, and an English man was made a bishop by this group and then separated from them himself because they became more and more liberal. He managed to be recognised briefly by the Greek Orthodox, but by his death there was no group in communion with Orthodoxy.
There are about 100 groups today claiming to be Old Catholic, which is up to them, but none of them are in communion with Orthodoxy.
“These Acts of Union have never been repudiated either by the Eastern Orthodox Churches or ourselves.”
This is taken from the website link you posted in regards to my question. We are not Eastern Orthodox, and we are not in communion with them either, so you are not related to the Coptic Church, in any way.
Also, you guys accept and initiate the ordination of women to the Priesthood and Episcopacy, NO Orthodix church accepts this, neither Oriental NOR eastern! Lots of general things just keep on telling me that something is fishy!
You’re welcome to join the Coptic Orthodox Faith if you’re interested and convinced by its Theology and Ideology so much! Monasticism, was after all founded by the Coptic Church, and it seems that by speaking with a Priest or Servant (knowledgeable), you will surely like what you hear but if you ever decide on joining the Church, you must forget about your life in the “Old Catholic Church..”, especially as a priest!
+God Bless+