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love and marriage?
I feel like none of us will be able to marry the ones that we fall madly in love with and it really dissapoints me. What if you really love someone who isn't our religion? i know that the two must be compatible but...i don't wanna go into a marriage only because i get along with the person. Ok i know its a loooooong time before i even start to think about this stuff but its rly unfair if you go into a marriage without love.
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once Pope Shenouda said this 17 year old loved this girl and vice versa, and he said what cna dis boy do for the girl? what she do for him? buy her a car? marry her? buy her presents? sleep with her? and so on........
i used ot be in that situation and i fell in love with her, but i got over it and told myself ill love the person ill marry, i mean u have to love her to marry her?
[shadow=purple,left][glow=purple,2,300]- Mr. Coptic Orthodox[/glow][/shadow]
but u kno when u get that feeling when u like sumone and they like u back that u kno u just kno 4 sure u'll get married to that person? have u ever got that? i mean u just kno it.. put then again u say its in god's hands but then u think of that person and ur like i'm sure God wants us 4 eachother.. u kno its kinda wierd.. in a way but u kno? sumone explain plz?? :-\
Rina ;)
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*
Dont get married at all if you cant find love.Life is too short to spend it being miserable and unhappy.Jesus doesnt seek our unhappiness.He came to "give us life and life more abundantly".That includes marital bliss.
that's all we gotta do guys! if we trust God we'll know that whoever you propose to or whoever proposes to you will be the one God wants in your life, and will bless it.
nothing that comes from God can be bad. my sunday school servant told us that when she was younger she prayed that God will 'choose her future husband for her and take care of him'. and God did just that. she's happily married now and they're a great couple!
trusting in God is so easy and hard at the same time. we want to be the ones to do everything and control everything, but when we put things in His hands, everything is just amazing (im sure we all know that :D)
so i figure the best thing would be to pray about it, talk to God, converse with Him like you would to a friend (i mean, He is the greatest friend you can have! ;)) tell Him you're worried about your future spouse and worried that the marriage wont grow in His love. ask Him to be in the midst of your future marriage (and future in general).... wait a few years and watch Gods wonders take place.
forget the egyptain culture and its weirdness (there's no doubt, some things in this culture will remain mysterious lol).... cuz the culture cant come between God and His plan for His beloved children!
If you Pray, why Worry, and if you Worry, why Pray?
lets leave all things up to Him, He told us He'll take care of our future and not to worry about it, and personally, im gonna hold Him to His word!!
besides, if God does choose the person for you, of course there will be true happy love, with each other and in Christ! :)
Great quote! I need to remember that...lol ;D
lol yup, i heard it somewhere
its pulled me through some tough times
;D
Take Care & God Bless!
its gone!
unless im totally blind lol....if you find it, feel free to post it :D
Take Care & God Bless
On another note: If this sounds totally stupid and just plain wrong i'm really sorry but i just know that in a marriage i'm sure i would want a certain amount of passion and excitement. And it seems like every single egyptian marriage is soooooo boring. They have nothing in common, and they don't even do anything together. I doubt most even talk about anything even remotely personal/private and i just think thats soooo wrong. If i'm going to be with a person for the rest of my life i want to have a lot of bonds with them.
there's a solution!
one logical thing is not to rush into marriage... not as soon as a person is 'of age' they should search for someone and stick to one if they think he/she is 'the one'.... lets do things according to God's time, not ours.
as many have mentioned earlier, we should just turst in God and pray about it. pray that we get our spouse from the Lord not from parents or the community or whatever.
how do we kno that the person we might end up with is from God? the same way we know alot of the things we have is from God. its just that great feeling that this is a blessing. there's peace and comfort inside of us that assures us that whatever this is, is from above.
there's no percise answer or sign or indication of whether the person is from God or not, but, if we completely trusted in Him, then we'd know that when we accept the proposal or take the courage to propse (depending), that it is from God.
of course, we should all go to our priests, the voices of God, before making a decision that big. if your father of confession is encouraging your action, then its from God.
any marriage that has Christ as its foundation, and the couple are depending and trusting in God completely, then there will be passion, excitement, love, communication, etc. because the couple will trust in God, therefore trust each other.
as my priest once said to us: "Make God the Centre of your world, and Everything will come together."
how true is that? i think we should stop worrying about the future and worry about now. lets tell God to take care of our future because He can, while we battle the temptations of today.
we cant control what happens, but we can leave everything in the Hands of Him who can.
take care all...
Read the Book of Solomon in the Bible,that gives you a good example of what a marriage should be like...lol ;D
well i have a question..it might be a little off topic...but here it is anyway....well...does anyone fall in love by choice? and how would u really know wut love is if u never experienced it before? yeah we already know about the Love of God for us by sacrifycing his only begotten son....but wut will a love between two people look like...is it to the point tht this person would change their whole life around for the one they love? or wut is it really....or maybe u will just feel it's love when u are in it...idk...this is all confusing....and i totally agree that there should be love before marriage...nowadays every one just wanna get married and rush into it...without loving the other person...so anyone who have an answer....reply please
Thanks,
Marianne
I'm about to go out so I'm gonna keep this brief but I think we need to understand a few things about marriage,
The first is that in the Eastern rite, they call marriage the sacrament of love, that is its true name and its purpose. If marriage is a mirror of the relationship between Christ and the church then what else could marriage be other than a bond of love? To add further to that God created marriage so we humans could learn to love, thats the whole point of marriage, God puts two people together so they can help eachother, we see this in genesis when God made a partner so that the two of them could see Him together. God also made a special person just for adam and vice versa. God knows us and what we're like so He will pick the very best person for us, in fact a person that He has been tayloring for us their whole lives, one special person who will become for us the primary instrument that God uses to teach us about His love. Since God knows and understands us better than anyone He finds its very easy to find someone that we can love, enjoy and want to be with.
To know God's will in marriage is very easy if we know one thing, that its God that makes His will happen not us. We're not God's mind readers, we can prepare our hearts so we can respond to His work but it is beyond us to do the same by figuring out God's will and persuing it ourselves. Since God is the source of all love (and we ought to love everyone) God will show His will by nurturing in us a very special and unique love, chasity and affection for one person that is unmatched to anyone else and since there is no comparable emotion within us that can even come close, we know that this special growth is from God. In wrong relationships, we can pick these easily, people fight a lot and God makes the path hard so that people know that this isn't what He wants. In the real thing there are road blocks but God can use sometimes even unexpected means to solve them so you know its not us and it is trully Him.
God bless,
CS
Theres a big difference between "falling in love" and "loving".One is more a matter of emotion{which comes and goes}while the other is more concerned with commitment.Its great to" fall in love" with somebody;that feeling that you just cant get enough of the other person.You want to be around them all the time, 24/7.But its a sad fact that this feeling is not permanant.It begins to ebb as time goes on,sometimes to the point where people decide they no longer "love" each other, and so they end up seeking divorce,as if this is the only solution to their problem.
True love is based on something deeper.Yes,its wonderful to have all those romantic feelings,to have all that emotion bubbling up inside you,the excitement and tingly sensation you experience when your around the male or female of your dreams,but if it doesnt also have commitment,faithfulness,selflessness,the attributes of true love, then it will never reach maturation and bloom into that perfect love that all of us seek and desire.A love based on the divine "Agape"{Gods love} and not one based soley on" Eros", {that sensual,emotional,erotic love} which by its very nature can never fulfill our inner longing for true intimacy, being shallow, shortlived and not built on permanant foundations.
True love is when you always seek the best{even at your own expense}for your partner,putting his or her needs above your own,committing yourself{no matter what the cost,for richer or poorer,for better or worse,in sickness or in health,until death do you part}to that person,in good times and bad,because you cant stand the thought of not being a part of that persons life.Your romantic feelings will come and go,depending on how you nurture them{it takes hard work...lol}but your LOVE is based on something deeper,something more long lasting,the foundation of whch is the very Love{Agapeo}of God Himself.
So you ask me: "When will I experience "true love"?My answer: "When you want to spend the rest of your life with another human being, desiring to put that persons needs and welfare above that of your own".When the other person feels the same way about you, then you will experience true marital bliss
ok its a pretty question.. yup its pretty.. umm well if everything goes perfect w/ a person but God doesn't want u for each other but everything is going PERFECT and ur abt to get married and walking in the middle of the church w/ ur sweet heart holding ur hand and all the sudden sumthing goes wrong and u get in a fight in front of everyone and she leaves off and u guys DON"T ever get married.. that all happens bcz God didn't want u for that person.. i kno that sounded horible but it has happened in true life... it really did happen... it's very sad :'( but thats one way u kno that that person wasn't right 4 u... :).. and i'm sure everyone stated other things.. so ya.. GOOD LUCK BUDDY!!
AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!! :-* :-* :-*
Rina ;)