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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158987#msg158987 date=1345063863] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158986#msg158986 date=1345063644] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158985#msg158985 date=1345063537] [quote author=…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158985#msg158985 date=1345063537] [quote author=The least of all link=topic=9585.msg158982#msg158982 date=1345063196] So Imikhail, you are saying that the liturgical prayers of the church take precedence, bu…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=9585.msg158982#msg158982 date=1345063196] So Imikhail, you are saying that the liturgical prayers of the church take precedence, but then you said that understanding it properly needs you to understand the O…
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My point is that who prays it and when is irrelevant to what was written. What was written was written by fathers. Why then does it take precedence over fathers? RO
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg158977#msg158977 date=1345062771] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=9585.msg158976#msg158976 date=1345062647] My question: Why would the liturgy written by Fathers take precedence over the Fathers? [/…
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My question: Why would the liturgy written by Fathers take precedence over the Fathers?
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=9585.msg158972#msg158972 date=1345062436] Well I guess that I will leave others to discuss this with you. I don't know what to say if you think that St Severus teaches error. [/quote] Try Kirie Eleison! :D Ret…
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Well then, since you say that the Psalmody is a liturgy, and that there is a part of the Psalmody that is incorrect, you concede that there was a part of the litrugical rites of the church which were incorrect. Now how would you know they were inc…
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The Tome of Leo is clearly nestorian and this would be the reason for Leo ousting St. Dioscorous. Really? You think that is the only possible reason? Have you heard the other side as well? You are taking data, and attaching your own interpretation t…
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imikhail, The 7th verse of the doxology of St. Shenouda the Archmandrite say, "One in essence is the Trinity, Coessential and Life-giving, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, three names for one God." Does that sound perfectly correct to you?…
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imikhail, Could you please define what you mean by liturgical? Would you consider the psalmody as being liturgical? or are you referring only to the Liturgy of the Eucharist? ReturnOrthodoxy
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[quote author=Ioannes link=topic=13535.msg158927#msg158927 date=1345003791] Leo is nestorian. Nestorius actually praised the Tome of Leo, viewing as a "vindication of the truth". [/quote] Bogus! Just because a heretic praises me for something, it d…
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It was a strongly worded comment. There is evidently emotion infused in it. this is the reality of how we are feeling now. I have a few friends who have left the Coptic church (I myself have been looking around at different Orthodox churches with co…
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[quote author=Ioannes link=topic=13452.msg158873#msg158873 date=1344959151] Egyptians are opposed to anything produced by converts unfortunately Abouna. Either they are just plain leary of anyone from outside of their ethnicity or they carry that Ph…
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[quote author=sherene_maria link=topic=13616.msg158783#msg158783 date=1344809054] Dear Severian, I do not know what is your denomination is, but from what you wrote on this forum you are taking the side of the Eastern Church over the Coptic Orthodo…
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I said the Trisagion in church today. I praised Jesus who is Holy, Mighty, Immortal, and God. God accepted my prayer. My Russian friend said the Trisagion in his church today. He praised the Trinity who is Holy, Mighty, Immortal, and God. God acce…
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MinaSoliman, It is excellent to have you on this site. I was wondering when you would show up. I think that you have (as usual) made a true statement. ReturnOrthodoxy
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Abouna Athanasius deserves his name.
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I'd like to bump this thread back to life with a question regarding this quote: "And they said that God wanted us deified ever since the beginning!! If God wanted to deify us as they say, He would not have created us of dust and He would have prote…
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I agree that we are slightly heading in the wrong direction. Often times, it is the work of just a few bishops. Still the Coptic Church is an Orthodox church. George Habib Bebawy was indeed excommunicated Wednesday February 21, 2007. I have my c…
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13603.msg158637#msg158637 date=1344394515] I was kidding... [/quote] LOL. I know you were. I was expanding on your joke lol
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[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13603.msg158622#msg158622 date=1344383000] [quote author=mabsoota link=topic=13603.msg158595#msg158595 date=1344360305] electronic bells! :o [/quote] Yeah, mabsoota... What is wrong with electronic bells? Th…
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Purity2, Read the Bible, then read Sheba's posts, then Peters post, and I think our point will be clear. If its not, and if Father Peter's censorship means nothing to you, then all we can do is pray that the destruction which sheba rejoices for ha…
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*Facepalm* St. Mary is in heaven, united in body and soul. I don't care how big the hat on the man who said it was, the authority of those fathers who defed it bear more weight to me; chalcedonian or not. Has anyone read the article by Fr. Athana…
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Kirie eleison!
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Awesome! I live Abouna Matta. When it comes to prayer and relationship with God, Abouna did it best. That is why his words have that effect. They come from practice. Pray for us, Abouna. ReturnOrthodoxy
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Lol, Geo, my comment was aimed not at you, but at those who want to pin it on demons, ignoring the need for open minded research. But you are absolutely correct, brother. It is a cross that they need to carry. A heavy one. Let's all carry together. …
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Homosexuality is a difficult topic. Few of us here are able to discuss it in depth and know the dimensions of it. Few of us have experienced the pain of unwanted same sex attraction. Pretending like it is not real does little to fix the problem. To …
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The Coptic church is in the Orthodox "camp." There is this very little room for superstition here. What's more, I think that this idea which you propagate is comparable to occultism. The Coptic church is strong and true. ReturnOrthodoxy
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Proudly, a chalcedonian Monophysite ReturnOrthodoxy